Street Captains

[Avi8tor2000]

Which regionals out there are hiring street Captains right now?

 

[BEfly]

why? you ready to move out of your mom's house?

 

[Avi8tor2000]

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[BEfly]

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[CitationUltra]

They're all hiring them, or will be.

 

[knewhigher]

Heard new hires at Mesa can hold captain pretty much right away. I also heard they will "officially" be hiring CRJ IAD street captains before long. Have fun.

 

[CitationUltra]

Heard new hires at Mesa can hold captain pretty much right away. I also heard they will "officially" be hiring CRJ IAD street captains before long. Have fun.

That was my point. They're either doing it, or the effect is the same, with the instantaneous upgrades.

Another factor is, at the point where the F/O pool primarily consists of pilots with fewer than 1,000 hours total time due to low-time newhires, how are you going to upgrade these people? It's not that there is anything wrong with them, or they aren't good pilots, but are the companies and insurance companies going to want to upgrade people into commercial turbojet aircraft with these experience levels?

 

[skydork]

PSA upgrades at ATP mins. We will probably be hiring street CA or doing immediate upgrades by summer.

 

[AWACoff]

Colgan is looking for street captains in the Q400.

 

[Trogdor]

GLA hires 1900 street CAs.

 

[Captainzero1]

IF you are from the freight world single pilot and thinking about being a street captain at the regional level. Remember your fo is part of the crew and not a box with a face drawn on for you to talk to.

 

[siucavflight]

If you go now prepare to be furloughed within one year. The aviation industry landscape is about to change very dramatically.

 

[Flybet3]

If you go now prepare to be furloughed within one year. The aviation industry landscape is about to change very dramatically.

I love it when people pull stuff out of their as$

 

[T-prop]

IF you are from the freight world single pilot and thinking about being a street captain at the regional level. Remember your fo is part of the crew and not a box with a face drawn on for you to talk to.

Many of those type you are referring to, usually choose to rudely ignore the asset they have in the right seat.

Saw this once on the J/S in a DHC8, he had less turbine time than the FO (Street CA was from Flight Express.) He ignored every "get-to-know-you" question from the FO. Then, he proceeded to tuck us in behind an Airbus on approach (got within a mile of him). I wanted to choke him out after landing for being such a worthless tool-bag.

 

[CitationUltra]

Many of those type you are referring to, usually choose to rudely ignore the asset they have in the right seat.

Saw this once on the J/S in a DHC8, he had less turbine time than the FO (Street CA was from Flight Express.) He ignored every "get-to-know-you" question from the FO. Then, he proceeded to tuck us in behind an Airbus on approach (got within a mile of him). I wanted to choke him out after landing for being such a worthless tool-bag.

Would he have been a worthless tool-bag anyway, "street captain" or not?

 

[beachpilot]

i bet you he is

 

[RiddleEagle18]

Is GIA still Hiring street captains. I heard that they weren't. If they are does anyone have a copy of their contract?? Typical trips?

 

[T-prop]

Would he have been a worthless tool-bag anyway, "street captain" or not?

It's not the "street captain" part, that made him that way... I was one at the time.

It's the part about his only experience prior to the left seat of a DHC8 was flying freight in a baron in Florida.

It's the complete lack of turbine experience, crew experience, humility, judgment, how he wormed his way through training, how he treated his more experienced FO, and how he flew, that made him a worthless tool-bag.

 

[CitationUltra]

It's not the "street captain" part, that made him that way... I was one at the time.

It's the part about his only experience prior to the left seat of a DHC8 was flying freight in a baron in Florida.

It's the complete lack of turbine experience, crew experience, humility, judgment, how he wormed his way through training, how he treated his more experienced FO, and how he flew, that made him a worthless tool-bag.

That's what I thought, thus the question.
I'm not sure I agree with all the derision toward these so-called "street" captains. If a pilot came into a company and actually took someone's job it might be different, but in the case of companies that are hiring captains because they cant upgrade the 450 hour FOs then so what?

 

[Flybet3]

That's what I thought, thus the question.
I'm not sure I agree with all the derision toward these so-called "street" captains. If a pilot came into a company and actually took someone's job it might be different, but in the case of companies that are hiring captains because they cant upgrade the 450 hour FOs then so what?

You know how it goes. Pilots gotta bit** about something.

 

[pdub20s]

Yea I wouldn't come to MESA to be a street captain. Cuz they would send you to IAD. And the most vicious a$$ whoppings the company hands down are in IAD.

 

[Flybet3]

Yea I wouldn't come to MESA to be a street captain. Cuz they would send you to IAD. And the most vicious a$$ whoppings the company hands down are in IAD.

I wouldnt come to mesa at all!!!

 

[pilotyip]

Pinnacle is advertizing on 350 for street Capts', so is Kalitta Charters

 

[labbats]

Pinnacle is offering "quick upgrade" to anyone over 3000 hours. I looked into that debacle recently and ran the other way. Not only is Pinnacle one of the worst regionals to work for, they sidestep proper payment by training you as an FO with awful first year FO pay until you finish IOE around 8 months later. They should be hiring you as a proper street CA first and paying accordingly from the start.

But as you can tell from a company who has blatantly defied court orders and dragged its feet on contract negotiations for better than 3 years, it's not a good move.

 

[siucavflight]

I would not go to Mesa at all.

 

[meyers9163]

PSA upgrades at ATP mins. We will probably be hiring street CA or doing immediate upgrades by summer.

I wouldnt go that far..... Things are all places that go good and fast will slow down. If you think upgrades will go less then a year you are crazy. There is no movement at the majors and the fact of the matter is things are going to slow down. With posted on many threads already new hire classes have been postponed and delayed, hiring isnt happening etc...... To tell someone to go for a street captain job is crazy in the 1st place..... They might want to learn a little about the plane they are flying before trying to be the CA of it!

 

[Hawker800]

Question: Do the FO's that were hired prior to a street captain move past that Capt. in seniority when they upgrade? Thanks.

 

[XJohXJ]

You know how it goes. Pilots gotta bit** about something.

And that's why we come to flightinfo!

 

[XJohXJ]

Question: Do the FO's that were hired prior to a street captain move past that Capt. in seniority when they upgrade? Thanks.

Seniority never changes. That FO is senior to the Street Captain, always. A street captain is hired into the company as a junior "newbie", just like whatever FO's are hired the same day, they just happen to qualify for Captain.

The seniority list is one big mix of CA's and FO's. The CA's aren't necessarily all at the top. Being a CA doesn't make someone senior. Only Date of Hire can give someone seniority.

 

[Simon Says]

Question: Do the FO's that were hired prior to a street captain move past that Capt. in seniority when they upgrade? Thanks.

Simple answer....YES. (Long answer...see above post)