75% of AA flights canceled in DFW...

[Lear70]

An RJ typically has a Vref speed between 145-155 kts carrying 10-15 kts of additives for gusts because of the lack of LED's.

A 60 kt loss would take you into the shaker and maybe even the pusher but, if you were high enough on a 1-mile final (500-600 feet AGL), engines spooled, and reacted quickly, you could recover it if the windshear didn't worsen with severe down-drafts.

Been there, done that. Not a fun t-shirt to have, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility.

 

[instructordude]

An RJ typically has a Vref speed between 145-155 kts carrying 10-15 kts of additives for gusts because of the lack of LED's.

A 60 kt loss would take you into the shaker and maybe even the pusher but, if you were high enough on a 1-mile final (500-600 feet AGL), engines spooled, and reacted quickly, you could recover it if the windshear didn't worsen with severe down-drafts.

Been there, done that. Not a fun t-shirt to have, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility.

I agree, been there too and it is possible. My sim partner crashed it though!

 

[GuppyWN]

A one mile final SHOULD put you at 300 agl. Unless it was very momentary you're dead.

Gup

 

[Lear70]

Theoretically, one mile should put you at 300 for eet, but I don't know what kind of aircraft it was, just theorizing on an RJ.

If it WAS a CRJ, it's artificially programmed 100 feet high on the G/S. Don't know why, but every CRJ I flew stayed well-high on the G/S, crossed the threshold at 100 feet, and aimed for touchdown about 1,000 feet down the runway instead of the FDM.

Not a fun thing, but something practiced fairly regularly in the sim (every PC) and even the recreation of the Delta DFW windshear was survivable if you reacted PERFECTLY.

Just not going to call them liars outright if they reported windshear that bad. Who knows if they were flying their speed perfectly or were 20-30 kts fast trying to slow to their Vref speed. Might have been carrying a lot of extra speed until they were closer in or had already gotten a gust earlier and hadn't slowed back down yet (decreasing perf windshear is often preceded by increasing perf windshear).

Who knows... except for them.

 

[Ty Webb]

AirTran and SWA both agree- JKE is a toad!

It looks like AirTran and SWA both tunred down this clown . . . . wonder why?

after SWA's "culture" allowed it to willingly and negligently skip required MX inspections, I doubt if it would surprise anyone to hear they would fly down to IIIA mins...in the middle of a thunderstorm.


can you say "hubris?"

 

[puddlejumper101]

It looks like AirTran and SWA both tunred down this clown . . . . wonder why?

Actually he claims he turned SWA down...either way THANK GOD!!!!

 

[Midnight Flyer]

Nobody is going to fly out of a 60 knot loss of airspeed on a 1 mile final, ever.

Chuck Norris could do it.

 

[DC3Flyer]

Once again

An RJ typically has a Vref speed between 145-155 kts carrying 10-15 kts of additives for gusts because of the lack of LED's.

A 60 kt loss would take you into the shaker and maybe even the pusher but, if you were high enough on a 1-mile final (500-600 feet AGL), engines spooled, and reacted quickly, you could recover it if the windshear didn't worsen with severe down-drafts.

Been there, done that. Not a fun t-shirt to have, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility.

I reiterate, it's not going to happen. If you plan to carry extra speed and double your altitude on a one mile final just to survive a possible windshear event, why the hell are you doing it?????

 

[737 Pylt]

Actually he claims he turned SWA down...either way THANK GOD!!!!

I'm sure he turned SWA down. Imagine how many other airlines this turd has been shot down by!:laugh:

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