Comair's Sole Crash Survivor wants to fly again

[Medeco]

Nothing was funny about that. It was poor taste at best.

Its amazing how cowardly you people act on this board. Obviously most of you think your perfect.

You might be pilots, but your hardly professionals.

Medeco

 

[The_Russian]

Enough is enough!

This is the exact reason why I have strayed away from this forum for a long time. Every few days I stroll through FI just to get a glimpse of the "happenings" in aviation. In the past, we used to argue a bit, but it was usually over facts with a little PFT thrown in the mix. Lately, it has degraded to the biggest piece of ******************** forum on the net, solely because of guys like YOU. Not only that, but your comments show your scab mentality as you break the unity of our fine group of pilots seeking improved safety within the industry. Thanks for that. Have you noticed that it improved your current career position on the ladder?

No, it didn't.

Gentlemen (and ladies), this is ridiculous. Do you all think you are that great of pilots that you are immune to this type of accident or mistake? I find your comments hard to believe and find them extremely unprofessional. This isn't your buddy falling off of a skateboard busting his knee, people died over this! Anyone can be a victim of a poor decision, mistake, or simple fatigue. Next time you experience a micro-sleep, think about your plane slamming into a mountain and you dying. Think about what its like to be dead and make those comments again.

If you actually understood the responsibility that you have as a whiny ass regional pilot in that shiny jet, you would not be making these comments. This kind of thing can happen to your co-workers, friends, or yourself tomorrow. You are all in such a rush to get to the "next step", that you are ignorant in your teachings and unable to gain experience due to your arrogance. If any of you had the slightest idea what causes accidents, and how scary it truly is, you would keep your little inexperienced asses shut instead of crapping all over a fellow pilot.

Forget the money. This guy MUST sue to protect his life from all the greedy families that know nothing about inherent danger and accepting personal responsibility. If you consider a defensive suit to protect a fellow pilot to be a negative aspect of his character, then you are an idiot.

I wouldn't want to share a cockpit with ANY of you.

******************** YOU!

 

[Caveman]

Caveman, not only is he the sole survivor but also the cause. Sorry, no compassion here.

BTW, I'm not a perfect pilot, but my mistakes never killed anyone or destroyed families.

Yet......

 

[Limeyflyer]

This is the exact reason why I have strayed away from this forum for a long time. Every few days I stroll through FI just to get a glimpse of the "happenings" in aviation. In the past, we used to argue a bit, but it was usually over facts with a little PFT thrown in the mix. Lately, it has degraded to the biggest piece of ******************** forum on the net, solely because of guys like YOU. Not only that, but your comments show your scab mentality as you break the unity of our fine group of pilots seeking improved safety within the industry. Thanks for that. Have you noticed that it improved your current career position on the ladder?

No, it didn't.

Gentlemen (and ladies), this is ridiculous. Do you all think you are that great of pilots that you are immune to this type of accident or mistake? I find your comments hard to believe and find them extremely unprofessional. This isn't your buddy falling off of a skateboard busting his knee, people died over this! Anyone can be a victim of a poor decision, mistake, or simple fatigue. Next time you experience a micro-sleep, think about your plane slamming into a mountain and you dying. Think about what its like to be dead and make those comments again.

If you actually understood the responsibility that you have as a whiny ass regional pilot in that shiny jet, you would not be making these comments. This kind of thing can happen to your co-workers, friends, or yourself tomorrow. You are all in such a rush to get to the "next step", that you are ignorant in your teachings and unable to gain experience due to your arrogance. If any of you had the slightest idea what causes accidents, and how scary it truly is, you would keep your little inexperienced asses shut instead of crapping all over a fellow pilot.

Forget the money. This guy MUST sue to protect his life from all the greedy families that know nothing about inherent danger and accepting personal responsibility. If you consider a defensive suit to protect a fellow pilot to be a negative aspect of his character, then you are an idiot.

I wouldn't want to share a cockpit with ANY of you.

******************** YOU!

Well Said...

 

[PCL_128]

This thread is exactly why I don't spend much time perusing the Regionals board anymore. What a bunch of pathetic little sh--s.

 

[zasca]

I was just trying to lighten the mood. The real problem with this thread is that no one seems concerned with the precedent this would set legally. Usually the corporations are the only ones facing litigation in this situation. Just imagine if pilots had to buy liability insurance to protect them for a hard landing that caused neck spasms in some old lady... (speaking of medical costs)

I don't think the families are attacking the FO out of greed. He is a Regional FO after all (no money). It's more likely out of spite, if anything else, and would help in a case against comair.

We will all make mistakes, only a minority don't get to laugh about them at their retirement party...

Is there any collection going on at Comair to help this guy out??? or the captain's family?

 

[acaTerry]

Caveman, not only is he the sole survivor but also the cause. Sorry, no compassion here.

BTW, I'm not a perfect pilot, but my mistakes never killed anyone or destroyed families.

Neither did the CA of the Titanic (see his statement before setting sail that day). Consider yourself a "yet"...

 

[Bako Cap]

While driving my car, I make a wrong turn onto a one way street, that I am unfamiliar with, under construction, and poorly marked, while tired at 6AM, that results in an accident that causes the deaths of 48 people, I'd be lucky to stay out of jail.

We are all "yets"

Sadly some of you seem to wish this kind of fate on all who don't have a bleeding heart for the guy.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Damn those airport map makers.

Jeez, so now Jepps is on the hook for this.

Only in America!!!

I guess you were never in Lexington before or after the accident during construction. The maps were wrong, pure and simple. I was there over one week AFTER the accident while Express Jet could not figure out how to get to the runway while using the taxiways they were told to use. I checked out their taxi clearance route on my map and it was impossible to do! The taxiways had different names than the map showed! I don't know if it was Jeppesen or the FAA or the Airport but I believe this to be a major contributing factor to the accident.

I flew with the captain before the accident and he was not the type of pilot to make careless mistakes. Sure, it is sad that we live in a sue-happy society but there is more to this story than the pilot simply turning down the wrong runway.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Question, weren't they jacking around on the flight deck also? According to the tapes, you heard a lot of laughing and jacking around. I am not for or against this guy coming back, but I think that something needs to be said about the crew that day being unsafe themselves.
Yes we all have had a flight that is just one of those days and no it didn't kill anyone but in this case in my opinion needs to be seriously thought about.
If he comes back to aviation, great if not that is great also.
Some of you are upset at this forum and what people say. That is their opinion and you have yours, you have the right to be upset and they have the right to post what they want. Again, that is my opinion. Yes, we all have one time or another are either upset or go off in here and that is our right.

 

[siucavflight]

This is just too funny.

 

[30West]

This thread is exactly why I don't spend much time perusing the Regionals board anymore. What a bunch of pathetic little sh--s.

Even scarier, this is the next generation of major airline pilots.

Typical American mentality here that punishment isn't complete without a huge financial payout.
What this guy has to live with for the rest of his life is far worse than any financial penalty any jury could impose.

Maybe he wants to fly just for himself. Nothing said he wanted to go back to airline flying. Most likely he won't qualify medically for that kind of flying anyway. Maybe he just wants to fly so he can try to put that flight behind him and not have that be the last memory he has of aviation.

It's disappointing that a group that supposedly calls themselves professionals turns out to be nothing more than a herd of opportunistic Hyena.

Karma.

 

[Moustache]

This thread is exactly why I don't spend much time perusing the Regionals board anymore. What a bunch of pathetic little sh--s.

You are not going anywhere and you know it, FI is crack to you!!

 

[Flybet3]

Nobody is 'tolerating' anything. We're trying to have a little compassion for someone that was the sole survivor of a crash that killed 49 people. He didn't get away with anything. He lost a leg and now has to somehow deal with the godawful idea that he played a part in this accident. What the ******************** is wrong with you?

Save it my brother. Your manners, higher class, and compassion for people will get you no where her "REGIONAL BOARD". You want to find the biggest idiots in aviation, come over to the regional board. It's filled with a bunch of over opinionated puss**s that hide behind the keyboard. You know what the worst part is? These are the same dou***bags that think they deserve more money b/c they are professionals.
The poor guy lost a leg, lost everything and has to most likely deal with the fact that 49 people died. He made a mistake that ANYONE can make. The man was/is only human, I just home that none of us get on the wrong runway or turn the wrong way. Grow up fag*s!

 

[JumpersAway]

Seriously though, did any of you hold the revised Jepp beside the older one the Captain used and examine the differences. I did. The one that Jeff, from 5191 did, in fact, direct him toward the wrong runway; and it isn't even illustrating the confusion and cluster #### that the construction caused. Be it because of the FAA or Jepp, the plate was absolutely wrong.

For those that are wanting to hang the guy, the difference between you, and him, is timing and place. What have you learned from his mistake? How sterile is your cockpit durring taxi out? Do you take the time to write down the taxiway/runway closures when you copy down the atis? Or do you sluff that taxi stuff off to the Captain to review. How often do you back the captain up on his taxi with the chart. I've seen very few F/O's, at a major or regional, taxi with their airport diagram out.

I can't tell you how many times I've been taxiing out with someone who wishes to tell me a life story. In essence, this has taught many of us nothing- except how to "monday morning quarterback" someone else's mistakes.

In many respects, I'd rather put myself on Polenke's airliner than many of your's. I'd be willing to bet, that even if he is lucky enough to eventually return to the line, his flightdeck would be one of the safest out there.