McCain to lose pilot vote block.

[RP170]

Right now we pay for healthcare in a number of ways: medicare taxes, personal outlay for uncovered stuff and copays, and in a very real sense, you pay for it in wages because it costs your company so much to purchase it for you.

I know of at least 3000 pilots who work for a company who has stepped up for their employees and pays every dollar of it.

It's nice to be treated with respect and appreciated by your employer. But hey, what do I know, I just fly a little bug smasher around. The real pilots fly the heavy iron!

McCain gets my vote. Not a fan of paying higher taxes to support free government hand out programs. How can someone justify that people who make more money and are successful in life have to pay a higher percentage in taxes? To me, the fair tax proposed by Ron Paul is the most logical and fair way for a tax system to operate.

The real downfall with the entire government is the 2 party system we have. Hopefully, one of these years an independent candidate (ie, Ross Perot) will be elected with innovative and creative ideas instead of views that are molded strictly by party ties.

 

[JustaNumber]

We as Democrats follow the belief that our country was founded on the principles of compassion and helping others who are less fortunate than ourselves. It also means protecting the planet, and beautifying our surroundings to pass down an even better environment to our children.

WHAT?!?!?!

I'm sorry, but I couldn't get over reading that line. Is that what is being taught in schools today?

Those beliefs sound more like something that was taught by Marx, not Jefferson. "To each according to his need, from each according to his ability." It didn't work in the U.S.S.R., it won't work in the U.S.A.

If I'm not mistaken, our country was founded on, and has succeeded primarily because of, the principles of individual freedom and capitalism, not shared wealth and extreme environmentalism (which, while sounding good, is about as anti-capitalist a movement as you can find).

Why is it so hard to look back over history to see which types of government have flourished, and which have failed miserably? I fear history is repeating itself again.

 

[AFcitrus]

Oh really?

This pilot will be voting for Obama!

It's so pathetic to hear Republican pilots cry about taxes. Where do you think the money comes from to send your kids to school? The parks and beaches? The infrastructure? The police and fire departments?...and all the other social services that you think are unimportant?

Take a look around. Our country is falling apart and all Republicans have done for the last 8 years is preach fear, hate, and venom about anyone who is less fortunate than themselves. Be clear on one thing: Republicans HATE unions. They HATE the fact that labor can actually stand up to their political lapdogs in Big Business and shut them down with a legal strike.

Those "loser democrats" as you called them, are the ones who support unions, support pilots, and support your right to organize. They support the working people. Your Republican friends only support Big Business, the HMO's, exporting of our jobs, immunity for those who help them break the law (read: telecoms), a so-called "Iraq war on terror" which is nothing more than a police action, and oh...let's not forget...Cabotage.

And you call yourself a union member?

No Don, we call ourselves "big picture" people. We understand that the misery that will pervail in this country (both economically, morally and security-wise) if either Osama (I mean Obama) or the Hildabeast gets into the Oval office will be far worse for us and our families than anything McCain can do to Airline pilots. I don't agree with him on every issue but it comes down to looking at where the candidates stand on all issues and then making a judgement in totality.

I recommend for those who haven't already, go to votehelp.org and take the 28 question survey. It is an unbiased survey (backed up by candidates quotes and previous votes in the senate) as to where each of them lies. Once you get your candidate results compare that against what you THINK the candidates will do for or against our profession and make a rational decision.

Have a nice day!

 

[Benhuntn]

Don I am tired and don't feel like working. I am out of sick days. How about you send me 1800.00. That is how much money I will lose for not showing up for my 3 day. It may seem like a lot of money to you but common be compasionate. I have a Volvo payment a boat payment and alimony to make. I love you dems. You are so much more understanding than the rep. PM me and I will give you an address to forward MY money.


PS ignore that Rush is right stuff that follows. It's not mine babie

 

[JustaNumber]

I do find it interesting that Republicans are generally anti-union. It should be the other way around. The union-management negotiating relationship could be an excellent example of the free market at work. If government stayed out of the negotiation process (i.e. get rid of ridiculously stringent RLA rules and overbearing bankruptcy judges), the market would sort itself out. Overreaching unions would see their companies go out of business, while overreaching companies would lose the best employees and see their companies suffer, and the system would thrive. Pure free market capitalism at work, which one would think Republicans should endorse. Maybe it's time for the rise of the Libertarian party. Just a thought.

 

[Draginass]

After listening to Obama's ***** wife say publically that she's ONLY proud of her country since HER husband became a presidential candidate, I'm in the "anybody but Obama" camp. Even Hillary's starting to look acceptable. It seems that she has exposed the Obama for what he is, regardless on how his spin-meisters are going to explain it away.

I can think of no greater insult to those serving their country, especially in times of war. She has deeply insulted me personally. It's obvious that Obama's wife does not respect or share American ideals. It's ALL about her and her husband.

 

[PCL_128]

I recommend for those who haven't already, go to votehelp.org and take the 28 question survey. It is an unbiased survey (backed up by candidates quotes and previous votes in the senate) as to where each of them lies. Once you get your candidate results compare that against what you THINK the candidates will do for or against our profession and make a rational decision.

Have a nice day!

Turned out as expected. Obama and Hillary tied at the top, Huckabee slightly behind, and McCain behind by almost 30 points.

 

[PCL_128]

After listening to Obama's ***** wife say publically that she's ONLY proud of her country since HER husband became a presidential candidate, I'm in the "anybody but Obama" camp. Even Hillary's starting to look acceptable. It seems that she has exposed the Obama for what he is, regardless on how his spin-meisters are going to explain it away.

I can think of no greater insult to those serving their country, especially in times of war. She has deeply insulted me personally. It's obvious that Obama's wife does not respect or share American ideals. It's ALL about her and her husband.

I'm not voting for Michelle Obama, I'm voting for Barack Obama. I could give two sh--s what his wife has to say.

 

[PCL_128]

I do find it interesting that Republicans are generally anti-union. It should be the other way around. The union-management negotiating relationship could be an excellent example of the free market at work. If government stayed out of the negotiation process (i.e. get rid of ridiculously stringent RLA rules and overbearing bankruptcy judges), the market would sort itself out. Overreaching unions would see their companies go out of business, while overreaching companies would lose the best employees and see their companies suffer, and the system would thrive. Pure free market capitalism at work, which one would think Republicans should endorse. Maybe it's time for the rise of the Libertarian party. Just a thought.

You seem to actually be under the assumption that the Republicans are about capitalism and the free markets. That couldn't be further from the truth. Republicans only care about one thing: making their rich buddies richer. Free markets actually run counter to that goal, because it provides competition. Republicans would prefer monopolies that give absolute power to the biggest corporations so they can continue to screw the little guy. For anyone in labor to vote Republican is like shooting yourself in the di--.

 

[pilotyip]

Hey PLC about YIP's office

Hey kid, I see management envy, you should really see someone about this and when you get near the 12,000 hr mark, let me know how you are again. BTW does fancy office mean heat and lights? Formica topped desk with two steel drawers? K-Mart carpeting? and folding chairs? If so then I have the fanciest office at YIP.

 

[pipe]

I'm not voting for Michelle Obama, I'm voting for Barack Obama. I could give two sh--s what his wife has to say.

I can't stand McCain and I WILL NOT vote for him. I am not ready to spend 25 years recovering my career from 4 years of McCain.

On the other hand, I don't give two sh--s what Bill Clinton's wife has to say either.

I think, given our choices, this will be a matter of hunkering down, surviving the next 4 years, and hoping for better choices next time around.

PIPE

 

[twepilot]

spot on dragin....Again, I can't believe someone seeking to represent the country as the President, refuses to wear the flag of the country he's seeking to represent on his lapel. Or, for that matter place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegance.(sp) To me that speaks volumes.

RV

 

[CA1900]

There are a lot of us that feel that turning the American flag into a tie tac, a lapel pin, or a tie, insults its meaning and its importance. I cringe every time I see a "flag tie" on somebody.

 

[PCL_128]

<font color="black">Hey kid, I see management envy

I don't envy worthless pr--ks.

 

[Benhuntn]

Bumper stickers everyone can use. " Run Hillary Run". Dems put it on the rear bumper and Rep. put it on the front bumper.


"I am voting for Monica Lewinski's ex-boyfriend's wife"

 

[Whataburger]

"I am voting for Monica Lewinski's ex-boyfriend's wife"

So now-a-days if you are on the receiving end of a BJ, that means you're dating?

 

[tittyjet]

So now-a-days if you are on the receiving end of a BJ, that means you're dating?

According to this chick I hooked up with last week, it does. News to me.

 

[tittyjet]

First of all, "tittyjet" Alexander Hamilton was the brains behind the formation of this here Republic. He was by far more influential than Jefferson.

I don't know where men like Hamilton would have taken the Article:1 Section: 8 Clause: 18 (the elastic clause) expansion of federal powers. But I do know this:

In Federalist# 1 he wrote: "a dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of people, than under the forbidding appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of government. History will teach us that the former has been a much more certain road to the introduction of despotism than the latter, and that of those men who have overturned the liberties of Republics the greatest number have begun their career by paying obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants!"

The more money and responsibility for our lives we give to government the less freedom we have.

I never wrote that he wasn't influential; I simply stated that he was a "fruit," which he was.

And, while I agree with your last statement regarding our freedom, I do think you need to reread your quote from Federalist #1.

 

[LoneStarFlyer]

The republicans have done a great job of marketing themselves while at the same time making it almost shameful to call oneself a democrat. Last time I checked I was a lot better off after 8 years of Clinton than I was after 8 years of Bush.

I know that will draw out the "well, you didn't have 9/11 back then" comments, so just save that. 9/11 was one moment in recent history that we had the entire world behind us and should have used that support to get bin Laden. What did Bush do? Dragged us into Iraq with no end in sight at a cost that could have been spent here at home helping OUR economy.

Now you have McCain, basically ensuring 4 more years of Bush style leadership, not to mention the fact that he's openly and adamantly anti labor and anti pilot.

Hey, vote for him if you like, just don't complain 4 years from now when your chosen industry is even further in the toilet and pilots from other countries are undercutting your pay and work rules, you'll only have yourself (and McCain) to thank...

Obama gets my vote.

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

The republicans have done a great job of marketing themselves while at the same time making it almost shameful to call oneself a democrat. Last time I checked I was a lot better off after 8 years of Clinton than I was after 8 years of Bush.

I know that will draw out the "well, you didn't have 9/11 back then" comments, so just save that. 9/11 was one moment in recent history that we had the entire world behind us and should have used that support to get bin Laden. What did Bush do? Dragged us into Iraq with no end in sight at a cost that could have been spent here at home helping OUR economy.

Now you have McCain, basically ensuring 4 more years of Bush style leadership, not to mention the fact that he's openly and adamantly anti labor and anti pilot.

Hey, vote for him if you like, just don't complain 4 years from now when your chosen industry is even further in the toilet and pilots from other countries are undercutting your pay and work rules, you'll only have yourself (and McCain) to thank...

Obama gets my vote.

Clinton had the chance to kill UBL at least twice and didn't have the balls to pull the trigger.

As for McCain v. this industry: the fight against Islamic radicalism is far more important to the future of our country, culture, and way of life than the welfare of the workers in any single industry, including this one.

 

[Flyprdu]

After listening to Obama's ***** wife say publically that she's ONLY proud of her country since HER husband became a presidential candidate, I'm in the "anybody but Obama" camp. Even Hillary's starting to look acceptable. It seems that she has exposed the Obama for what he is, regardless on how his spin-meisters are going to explain it away.

I can think of no greater insult to those serving their country, especially in times of war. She has deeply insulted me personally. It's obvious that Obama's wife does not respect or share American ideals. It's ALL about her and her husband.

Nice misquote moron. Do some research before you rant- and stop taking O'Reilly's word for it.

 

[Flyprdu]

As for McCain v. this industry: the fight against Islamic radicalism is far more important to the future of our country, culture, and way of life than the welfare of the workers in any single industry, including this one.

This is a serious error. There is absolutely no way that a bunch of clowns can completely distract us from the daily tasks at hand of running this country.

We have been doing that the last 7 years, we took our eyes off the ball, and the country is disintegrating.

This is an egregious error in judgment. We are hollowing out our country and souls in pursuit of ghosts. It's time to refocus on our families and our lives before it is too late.

The neoconservative experiment is ended.

 

[Draginass]

Sorry, I don't watch this O'Reilly guy like evidently you do . . I watched her speech. I did not quote her. I summarized how a rational and honest person would interpret her statement, and indeed what I think was truly in her heart. Every now and then, politicians let slip what they're really thinking. I think this was the case here. I think at least she was being honest, if not showing a direct disdain for America.

Now the Obama spin machine has to backtrack with a tortured explanation of what the politically correct version should be.

 

[Flyprdu]

Sorry, I don't watch this O'Reilly guy like evidently you do . . I watched her speech. I did not quote her. I summarized how a rational and honest person would interpret her statement, and indeed what I think was truly in her heart. Every now and then, politicians let slip what they're really thinking. I think this was the case here. I think at least she was being honest, if not showing a direct disdain for America.

Now the Obama spin machine has to backtrack with a tortured explanation of what the politically correct version should be.

"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."

Here is the direct quote for you and others who want to know the truth. She never said she was not proud. She said that she was "really proud" now. As in MORE proud than before.

This is an obvious slant from opponents of Obama who are grasping at straws. It is sad really, that this is the best you have..

Looking forward to November.

 

[Snapshot]

Clinton had the chance to kill UBL at least twice and didn't have the balls to pull the trigger.

W has had six and a half years worth of chances, but sent everyone to IRAQ instead.

 

[FlickerFade]

I never wrote that he wasn't influential; I simply stated that he was a "fruit," which he was.

Read: "Alexander Hamilton" by Ron Chernow. Where in the eff do you get the "fruit" comment?!

My quote says he was more worried about populists than anyone else abridging liberties.

 

[Draginass]

Predictably you conveniently forgot the part about "for the first time." Don't get dizzy from spinning so fast.

 

[FlickerFade]

The republicans have done a great job of marketing themselves while at the same time making it almost shameful to call oneself a democrat. Last time I checked I was a lot better off after 8 years of Clinton than I was after 8 years of Bush.

I know that will draw out the "well, you didn't have 9/11 back then" comments, so just save that. 9/11 was one moment in recent history that we had the entire world behind us and should have used that support to get bin Laden. What did Bush do? Dragged us into Iraq with no end in sight at a cost that could have been spent here at home helping OUR economy.

Now you have McCain, basically ensuring 4 more years of Bush style leadership, not to mention the fact that he's openly and adamantly anti labor and anti pilot.

Hey, vote for him if you like, just don't complain 4 years from now when your chosen industry is even further in the toilet and pilots from other countries are undercutting your pay and work rules, you'll only have yourself (and McCain) to thank...

Obama gets my vote.

Clinton cut my active Navy job in the '90's when he cut the military by 50%. You know, because we didn't have any more wars to ever fight No enemies plotting to attack us or anything GO Dem's!! I only care about one thing though my airline union!! So I'm going to vote for a guy with no executive or leadership experience.....................

 

[PCL_128]

Clinton had the chance to kill UBL at least twice and didn't have the balls to pull the trigger.

You can't possibly be dumb enough to believe that Bush doesn't know where that co--sucker is. He's known for years, but he's too much of a wimp to tell the Pakistani government that he's going to go in and get him.

 

[BSkin]

Well, they sure as hell ain't gonna vote for Billary or Obama. McCain has his skeletons and has been a thorn in the side of commercial pilots but he's head and shoulders above those loser democrats.

Thank you, less typing!