Airtran may get some of Delta's gates in ATL

[CitationLover]

Even after we get our raise, it isn't going to help you anyways.

You need to get yours 1st. Unlike you I am FOR higher wages for ALL. you should be too.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

I am and we did get raise. but as you know we voted it down. You talk about your fo rates, but have you seen your ca rates. I forgot you don't need to worry about that anyways, never mind.:beer:

 

[CitationLover]

I am and we did get raise. but as you know we voted it down. You talk about your fo rates, but have you seen your ca rates. I forgot you don't need to worry about that anyways, never mind.:beer:

trust me, that's what the negotiating committee cares about here is CA rates. don't believe me, ask FlyWolf.

when are you upgrading? yeah, that's what I thought. don't be so quick to bash another carriers upgrade time when yours are going way up also. i'm guessing you voted YES at mesa in 2003.....

besides we have 88 seats in our 717's versus 117 for you. i would expect our pay (and more importantly our FA pay) to go up a lot when the seating capacity increases this summer. 12.5% is my starting point.

 

[FlyWolf]

Once upon a time I was hoping that Airtran buy us and form a strong combined airline, but after seeing what happened to Lear70 because he stood for all pilots I am thinking thank God it didn't happen, what happened to Lear70 is exactly why I left my previous job.

 

[Kharma Police]

trust me, that's what the negotiating committee cares about here is CA rates. don't believe me, ask FlyWolf.

when are you upgrading? yeah, that's what I thought. don't be so quick to bash another carriers upgrade time when yours are going way up also. i'm guessing you voted YES at mesa in 2003.....

besides we have 88 seats in our 717's versus 117 for you. i would expect our pay (and more importantly our FA pay) to go up a lot when the seating capacity increases this summer. 12.5% is my starting point.

What is your current upgrade time? You think your management is going to give you a fat raise just because they've wised up and turned your airplane back into a DC-9 not an RJ?

 

[FlyWolf]

CL, I put 25% min increase in the survey

 

[FlyWolf]

Kharma, don't forget you're in the airline business, today you are making fun of us here at Midwest, tomorrow it could be a different story

 

[Kharma Police]

Once upon a time I was hoping that Airtran buy us and form a strong combined airline, but after seeing what happened to Lear70 because he stood for all pilots I am thinking thank God it didn't happen, what happened to Lear70 is exactly why I left my previous job.

You think NWA hasn't pulled that kind of stuff?

 

[CitationLover]

What is your current upgrade time? You think your management is going to give you a fat raise just because they've wised up and turned your airplane back into a DC-9 not an RJ?

9 years and only going up thanks to Prater signing off on age 65. There was a hiring freeze/furlough after 9/11 for awhile so the true number is a little less than 9 years. AAI's is 3 1/2 years according to airlinepilotcentral. It's only going to go up as deliveries slow down. Lear70 explained this I thought, ie not relying on CA rates at AAI as he expected to be in the right seat for quite awhile.

I HOPE you get FedEx+10% on ALL rates, especially on the 717. I am sure the Hawaiian 717 pilots would agree with that target also.

I don't know what management will do, I'm telling you what I am expecting for us. Less than that and no will be voted. Our flight attendants deserve a raise also as they will deal with the incurred responsibility immediately.

 

[Kharma Police]

Kharma, don't forget you're in the airline business, today you are making fun of us here at Midwest, tomorrow it could be a different story

I'm not making fun of anyone, I like you guys. However, I'm not going to sit back while one of your own tries to throw mud at my fellow pilots or myself.

 

[FlyWolf]

NWA? last I checked Midwest was still Midwest and NWA had no control over us, when NWA take control of us I might change my stand

 

[CitationLover]

I'm not making fun of anyone, I like you guys. However, I'm not going to sit back while one of your own tries to throw mud at my fellow pilots or myself.

hahaha. saying I want you to get a RAISE is "slinging mud". hahaha. you're my hero kharma, "defender of all that is right".

 

[CitationLover]

CL, I put 25% min increase in the survey

well to be honest I put scope as my #1 issue. skypest needs to go...

now if only we can get more than 33% to participate, we might get somewhere.....

:beer:

 

[Kharma Police]

NWA? last I checked Midwest was still Midwest and NWA had no control over us, when NWA take control of us I might change my stand

I'm sorry, bad example. How about totally firing one group of pilots (Skyway) and replacing them with another (SkyWest). Is that the kind of airline people would want to work for?

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

trust me, that's what the negotiating committee cares about here is CA rates. don't believe me, ask FlyWolf.

when are you upgrading? yeah, that's what I thought. don't be so quick to bash another carriers upgrade time when yours are going way up also. i'm guessing you voted YES at mesa in 2003.....

besides we have 88 seats in our 717's versus 117 for you. i would expect our pay (and more importantly our FA pay) to go up a lot when the seating capacity increases this summer. 12.5% is my starting point.

My upgrade is still around three years. My problems with you and your arrogant attitude any time you fill like looking me up feel free.

 

[Kharma Police]

hahaha. saying I want you to get a RAISE is "slinging mud". hahaha. you're my hero kharma, "defender of all that is right".

You mean to say you have never "slung mud" at AirTran?

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Kharma, don't forget you're in the airline business, today you are making fun of us here at Midwest, tomorrow it could be a different story

We are not, CL arrogance that gets all this going.

 

[CitationLover]

You mean to say you have never "slung mud" at AirTran?

well yes, calling them "Scraps" and equating that to a chick getting a facial, but that's about it. not a fan of Joe L. either, but he's gone (i caused that i guess).

using bad behavior to justify your bad behavior is not a good excuse Kharma.....

arrogance? speaking up for myself is arrogance? you people take this way too seriously. i never realize i had this GREAT power. perhaps i can mystify Timmay.....

you should expend this energy and get that new contract. don't block the alley in MKE either, lots of CA's smoke here and you're going to have them stroke out.....

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

You know ten years ago we would all be getting wedgies just for being on here at the magnitude that we are. Face it, we are all just a bunch of internet geeks. But before you decide to throw down at high noon you should all check out this site. CL vs Kharma50 vs Metallica Man.

www.sissyfight.com

 

[CitationLover]

You know ten years ago we would all be getting wedgies just for being on here at the magnitude that we are. Face it, we are all just a bunch of internet geeks. But before you decide to throw down at high noon you should all check out this site. CL vs Kharma50 vs Metallica Man.

www.sissyfight.com

no, we'll settle it on the battlefield. Axis and Allies! i call Germany! i am a board game geek! kharma and ridethelightning (HA! i get the metallica man comment now!) are (poor CL grammar skills) invited too.

http://boardgamegeek.com/

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

nice that you know what Ridethelightning is.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

nice that you know what Ridethelightning is.

This job may have made me a geek but I will always be METAL.

 

[Kharma Police]

well yes, calling them "Scraps", but that's about it. not a fan of Joe L. either.

using bad behavior to justify your bad behavior is not a good excuse Kharma.....

arrogance? speaking up for myself is arrogance? you people take this way too seriously. i never realize i had this GREAT power. perhaps i can mystify Timmay.....

you should expend this energy and get that new contract. don't block the alley in MKE either, lots of CA's smoke here and you're going to have them stroke out.....

You should bring back the Elton John avatar, I thought it was funny. Also, we didn't block the alley while we were getting de-iced in MKE. Surprisingly your fellow pilots didn't wave back as they entered the ramp.

 

[CitationLover]

you know i saw metallica in 1997 at the Rosemont Horizon. almost got a contact buzz from the pot smoke around us. i am happy to report of the 4 chicks pre show flashing people, one was sitting right in front of us. god bless the usa! i still think kirk is gay though (even though he's married now).

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

no, we'll settle it on the battlefield. Axis and Allies! i call Germany! i am a board game geek! kharma and ridethelightning (HA! i get the metallica man comment now!) is invited too.

http://boardgamegeek.com/

Axis and Allies? Should have mentioned it earlier. I would have brought it down to ATL with me.

 

[CitationLover]

You should bring back the Elton John avatar. Also, we didn't block the alley while we were getting de-iced in MKE. Surprisingly your fellow pilots didn't wave back as they entered the ramp.

you should thank the man on my avatar. do you know who it is?

perhaps Gen. Sherman would be a better one. i like what he did to ATL.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

you know i saw metallica in 1997 at the Rosemont Horizon. almost got a contact buzz from the pot smoke around us. i am happy to report of the 4 chicks pre show flashing people, one was sitting right in front of us. god bless the usa! i still think kirk is gay though (even though he's married now).

I met the band in Milwaukee. Lars gave my buddy a drumstick. Also Dave Mustaine from Megadeth told me once that he was going to pray for me but that is a whole other story.

 

[Kharma Police]

I met the band in Milwaukee. Lars gave my buddy a drumstick. Also Dave Mustaine from Megadeth told me once that he was going to pray for me but that is a whole other story.

Wasn't that a scene from "Wayne's World"?

 

[CitationLover]

I met the band in Milwaukee. Lars gave my buddy a drumstick. Also Dave Mustaine from Megadeth told me once that he was going to pray for me but that is a whole other story.

I love Dave Mustaine crying in therapy on "Some Kind of Monster". See what a lot of heroine does to you kiddies?

Wasn't that a scene from "Wayne's World"?

That was Alice Cooper I believe.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

Wasn't that a scene from "Wayne's World"?

Close. In Wayne's World Alice Cooper was giving Wayne a history of Milwaukee. How Milwaukee was an Indian name pronounced Mee-leo-wok-ay, which means "the good land". Also that Milwaukee is one of the only US cities to ever elect two Socialist Mayors.