CS Pay

[sflax]

They just got a new one.

 

[CA1900]

Rumor is, unsurprisingly, NetJets+500/year. Do you have the new scale for comparison?

 

[sflax]

Don't work there. But I ran into some at the FBO said they got an email. But had not seen it.

 

[gunfyter]

Awesome....

Show me the money!

 

[robbo]

A little less than NJ.
First year FO will be $55,510 for 7 on 7 off. Also said that we will be getting new schedule options with appropriate pay scales, but for now we will remain on the 7/7 schedule. 5 Year captain 101K. Tops out at 142K for a 15 year captain.

 

[CA1900]

Sounds like it's more-or-less on the level with our payrates. Glad to hear it!

 

[Inigo Montoya]

When would it go into effect? FlexJet still has more than 2 months to go before our "better than industry average pay" sets in. I guess it wont be better anymore....

 

[XTW]

April 1, 2008.

 

[realityman]

If true, congrats guys and gals!! Looks like the fracs are fast becoming the place to be.
Exciting times for us!

And yes, my hat's off to CS management and Flex management for stepping up. I'll be one of the first to jump on em when they do stupid things but will also happily give credit where it's due.

Enjoy the raise. You all deserve it!

 

[johnsonrod]

Let's all thank the Netjets union for its hard work and dedication to increasing industry pay standards.

Great news for the CS pilots out there. Now, let's see if that impacts the attrition rate...

 

[Chewbacca]

So far its a 7/7 raise, based on 182 days a year.

Wont post the whole thing.

CA
1 - 83270
5- 101762
10- 120,261
15- 142,122

FO
1 - 55,510
2 - 58,286
3 - 61,200
4 - 64,260
10- 79738

New schedules will come out to compliment the 7/7 including (rumored) 8/6, 6/8, 4/10, with varied pay. 4/10 would be less pay, but more QOL.

Lets get all the fracs together and raise it up!

 

[FRACTRASH]

It's all true and I must thank NJ for raising the bar on this one.

 

[cush]

Congrats guys!!

 

[logcon]

I also must thank NJ for raising the bar. Next round is on me.

 

[Geronimo4497]

Any chance in hell this will help speed up the process for the FLOPS guys?

Great to hear about CS! The markets do work. Way to set the bar NJA!

 

[johnsonrod]

Any chance in hell this will help speed up the process for the FLOPS guys?

Great to hear about CS! The markets do work. Way to set the bar NJA!

What's the likelihood that Avantair will see a little boost? I realize Avantair doesn't have the same level of resources but I still hope you guys see an increase. You should - otherwise watch more of your guys flock to the higher-paying fractionals. You basically do the same job in a different airplane.

Good luck!

 

[Humphreybogart]

Our pay raise at CitationShares has NOTHING to do with NJ getting a pay raise. Our management came up with it on their own.

 

[Humphreybogart]

Our pay raise at CitationShares has NOTHING to do with NJ getting a pay raise. Our management came up with it on their own.

JUST KIDDING!!!

 

[flyzimex]

ATP required??

Being one who has looked at going to the fracs I am quite thrilled to see the recent upswing in salaries and benefits you guys have rightfully been awarded.

Not trying to hijack the thread, but will CS even consider one without full ATP? I have the written done but it would be nice to combine a type rating ride with an ATP check. I know it has been done at Flex and that XO will accept applications with ATP written only.
I of course realize the chance of being called with the full ATP is bigger, and if it's a must I will go ahead and spend the dough.

Once again congrats to all (or at least most) fracs guys out there.

/FlyZimex

 

[2dumb2drive]

JUST KIDDING!!!

for the sake of my entertainment i wish you would have left that out.

 

[PilotChapin]

What's the likelihood that Avantair will see a little boost? I realize Avantair doesn't have the same level of resources but I still hope you guys see an increase.
Good luck!

HAHAHAHAHA!!! You will never ever see avantair pay anything like that. First of all the avantair fractional owners are mostly the "POOR RICH" people. Secondly many many many things need to happen, first off they need to stop bleeding money, secondly work rules have to improve quite a bit, if it pretty much takes an act of congress to get a crew meal then that just tells you how much they "care"

 

[jonjuan]

HAHAHAHAHA!!! You will never ever see avantair pay anything like that. First of all the avantair fractional owners are mostly the "POOR RICH" people. Secondly many many many things need to happen, first off they need to stop bleeding money, secondly work rules have to improve quite a bit, if it pretty much takes an act of congress to get a crew meal then that just tells you how much they "care"

Are you talking about avantair or flops?

 

[fischman]

That is FANTASTIC news.

It is well earned all!

 

[Geronimo4497]

What's the likelihood that Avantair will see a little boost? I realize Avantair doesn't have the same level of resources but I still hope you guys see an increase. You should - otherwise watch more of your guys flock to the higher-paying fractionals. You basically do the same job in a different airplane.

Good luck!

Profitability is the key and the conference call from yesterday still indicates that it should happen by the middle part of this calender year. That is of course if sales keep up.

 

[wanttofly]

JUST KIDDING!!!

I think Wilbur just rolled over in the grave, never thought I would hear anything like that from Humphrey......WOW.

 

[7777]

Any word on if they are going to add any new domiciles or possibly extending the 2 hour drive requirement from home to domicile airport?

 

[bailout]

Not trying to hijack the thread, but will CS even consider one without full ATP? /FlyZimex

At this time, they will not.

 

[johnsonrod]

HAHAHAHAHA!!! You will never ever see avantair pay anything like that. First of all the avantair fractional owners are mostly the "POOR RICH" people. Secondly many many many things need to happen, first off they need to stop bleeding money, secondly work rules have to improve quite a bit, if it pretty much takes an act of congress to get a crew meal then that just tells you how much they "care"

Please re-read my question. I didn't say a raise at the same level but instead I said "a little boost." Nobody expects Avantair to pay the same amount as Netjets or CS. I agree the Avantair needs to ensure financial stability first. Losing experienced pilots to NJA or CS or Flex certainly won't help matters. This is a people business - and that's the point. Evidently the management at FLOPS doesn't know that.

 

[hammer2]

You got your raise because of the hard work put in by the people at Flexjet.

 

[hammer2]

You got your raise because of the hard work put in by the people at Flexjet.

Just kidding.