CAL JAN Class Breakdowns

[Jonny Sacko]

All to EWR for now. Sometimes a few IAH 737 come up, but not for awhile. 33 new 737's this year, currently 16 scheduled to leave(could be more).

Yeeeessssss, and a loss of 15-18 500's or so, which equals 15 hulls. It wasn't about the base, but where are they going? 15 planes, 5-10 per seat or 20 per plane, at 15 planes is around 300 give or take. No retirements, 60 a month is 5 months. Hmmmm



Conspiracy I THINK SO; Maybe it'll be a farm team for the NASA shuttle program. Now That's a conspiracy!

 

[FutureHeavyAC]

No I think people DO take the GO Jet thing seriously....thats why people ask all the time..."Should I not go there?"

 

[SuperFLUF]

Where they all going?? Isn't the total net 15 hulls??

We were understaffed last summer and had quite a few meltdowns in EWR. The instructors have been told we're continuing the hiring pace in order to try to be properly staffed this summer. So "they" are not only hiring for the new airframes and increased utilization of the existing airframes but also to catch up from last year's deliveries and expansion as well.

 

[Splinter]

F a bunch of CAL. No insurance for 6 months? WTF, Over? For a company that champions how it treats its employees, that's a pretty sharp kick in the gonads to start out your career. That being said, if you like landfills, waste incinerators, violent crime, and scenic northern Jersey, by all means, apply.

 

[minrest]

What does "F a bunch of CAL" mean?

 

[ForgedBlade]

F a bunch of CAL. No insurance for 6 months? WTF, Over? For a company that champions how it treats its employees, that's a pretty sharp kick in the gonads to start out your career. That being said, if you like landfills, waste incinerators, violent crime, and scenic northern Jersey, by all means, apply.

So I guess CAL turned you down...

 

[Phrogs4ever]

F a bunch of CAL. No insurance for 6 months? WTF, Over? For a company that champions how it treats its employees, that's a pretty sharp kick in the gonads to start out your career. That being said, if you like landfills, waste incinerators, violent crime, and scenic northern Jersey, by all means, apply.

(Sigh)

I had insurance for my whole family the first six months.

CAL doesn't require newhires to move to downtown Newark.

I see more landfills here in Houston.

I chose to work here as is AND make it a better place to work. I guess you would prefer someone else fight for a better contract THEN you get hired and reap the benefits. Great attitude.

 

[mamba20]

F a bunch of CAL. No insurance for 6 months? WTF, Over? For a company that champions how it treats its employees, that's a pretty sharp kick in the gonads to start out your career. That being said, if you like landfills, waste incinerators, violent crime, and scenic northern Jersey, by all means, apply.

I had no problem finding some insurance to get me through the first six months. Yeah I think thats something that needs to improve in the next contract but you've got to look past six months.

You've obviously never been to northern Jeresy. The vast majority of it is beautiful. . . the violent crime and waste land you speak of is called Newark. Who wants to live next to an airport anyways.

 

[coolyokeluke]

If Continental doesn't want people taking advantage of military leave thier first year they could try paying a decent first year wage with health insurance. Just a crazy thought! The reality is people have to look out for their own financial interests.

 

[Jonny Sacko]

If Continental doesn't want people taking advantage of military leave their first year they could try paying a decent first year wage with health insurance. Just a crazy thought! The reality is people have to look out for their own financial interests.

Hmm, so what about the NON-military?

 

[jke406]

(Sigh)

I had insurance for my whole family the first six months.

So your position is that zero company-provided health care for six months (not everyone can get tricare) and $30/hr is an acceptable situation?

This guy has "middle management" written all over him!

 

[nimtz]

F a bunch of CAL. No insurance for 6 months? WTF, Over? For a company that champions how it treats its employees, that's a pretty sharp kick in the gonads to start out your career. That being said, if you like landfills, waste incinerators, violent crime, and scenic northern Jersey, by all means, apply.

Yep the EWR base is just horrible. I hate living 15 minutes from work and 10 minutes from Manhattan. I've given this job so many second thoughts, especially lately while sitting on the beach with drink in hand while on a Carribean layover...

 

[ForgedBlade]

...and to add...

How about all you guys that bash CAL for the first year pay, benefits, etc., quit bashing CAL for it!! That was all done by the union - the company just went along with it. If there is anyone to blame for this POS contract, it is our own pilot group (or 51% of it anyway) not the company.

 

[Phrogs4ever]

So your position is that zero company-provided health care for six months (not everyone can get tricare) and $30/hr is an acceptable situation?

This guy has "middle management" written all over him!

Wow. Quite an assumption made from such a short email. You, however, seem to go out of your way to show what type of person you are. Assumption not required.

Let me slow it down for you, pay attention. You said that you would be without health insurance for six months. You did not say company paid health insurance. I said that you will not be without insurance. Simple right? Let's continue.

Never did I even remotely imply that the situation was acceptable. I said that I knew the situation when I got hired, AND will work to make it better. See the difference? No? Let me say it another way. No company is perfect, but I chose to get a seniority number when I could and work with the other pilots to make it a better place. The concept is one of being a part of team, a movement. Not one of bystanding until risk/sacrificed has been minimized by the work of others so that I can have it easy.

Got it yet? If you're still having trouble understanding my position then I would venture to say that you have Forward Lav Cleaner written all over you. Just make sure you don't put the paper towels in backwards, I hate that.