What's in a name? The Merged Airline's name would be......

[General Lee]

Anderson is borrowing a page out of Buffoon's (Bethune) playbook and telling the employees what they want and need to here. As a lawyer he knows exactly what the treaty says and talked to us at a leadership seminar about it in detail and how specific and valuable it is to NWA INC. Still lean toward the NWA purchase of CAL (Newbridge Corp. exp. 04/08) and the NWA INC. Certificate owning Asia. NWA has authority to fly out of 11 U.S. cities to Tokyo and beyond and the 787 will be flying out of many of them in a few years as the real value of hundreds of NWA slots start to get utilized. The time has come. P.S. When I mention Delta in Narita they say it is a name on a silver handle in the rest rooms.

First, you need to talk to Oscam's Razor about transferring the treaty. It can be done. And, Anderson has switched sides, he doesn't work for you anymore. His "loyalty" is now with who pays him the big bucks. It may be hard for you to believe, but that is the way it goes. And, Northwest may have a great reputation in Asia, but in the rest of the world and the United States it is lacking. I can't wait to see more of Asia, thanks to this possible acquisition, if it happens.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Tanker Clown]

Rest easy NWA pilots

Well, that's not what the few Northwest pilots I have talked to said. They said they would love to have Anderson back compared to the current Steenland. But hey, I can understand what you are feeling, the same thing we fealt with USAir coming at us. Don't worry, it will be OKAY. Moak will handle it, FOR ALL OF US.(if we do merge)

Bye Bye--General Lee

Remain calm....The General said it will be OKAY. All is well. You can now carry on.

 

[General Lee]

Remain calm....The General said it will be OKAY. All is well. You can now carry on.

You bet....shhhh. It will be OOOOOKAY. Quit crying baby, I still love you......shhhhh

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[doh]

I don't have a say in your fight, but I would like to see something you have saying otherwise. Besides what you have "heard", can you show anything that supports what you have to say? I would like to see it. Reading this article and reading Steenland's memo, I would think Northwest is not playing the dominating roll here. Do you think this author misquoted Anderson? I guess that is possible. He would know a lot about that treaty since he ran Northwest for awhile.

Heavy, I think the real point here is that mgmt lies. It doesn't matter what they say in public, it doesn't matter what they say in the paper. It only matters what they sign on the bottom line. And even then if it is your contract you can't trust them. I have known Ritchie since he first got started in the airline bidness, and I wouldn't trust his snake oil selling ass for one minute.

 

[doh]

First, you need to talk to Oscam's Razor about transferring the treaty. It can be done. And, Anderson has switched sides, he doesn't work for you anymore. His "loyalty" is now with who pays him the big bucks. It may be hard for you to believe, but that is the way it goes. And, Northwest may have a great reputation in Asia, but in the rest of the world and the United States it is lacking. I can't wait to see more of Asia, thanks to this possible acquisition, if it happens.

Bye Bye--General Lee

I'm going to disagree with you on one small point there Gen. Ritchie's "loyalty" is to himself. Delta can have what's left over because they are paying him, but there won't be much left over after he does what's best for Ritchie. I have known him for 20 years and that leopard ain't changing his spots.

 

[ExAF]

Funny

You think your Fonzie Members Only jackets are a hip look?! Well, at least you don't mix brown leather and blue pants.

Funny that you posted this at this point in the thread. I was just thinking that if I had to go to the double breasted coat, that would finally be enough motivation to buy a leather jacket to avoid the db coat. By the way, I still don't like the leather jackets, just don't like db coats more.

 

[DTW320]

First, you need to talk to Oscam's Razor about transferring the treaty. It can be done. And, Anderson has switched sides, he doesn't work for you anymore. His "loyalty" is now with who pays him the big bucks. It may be hard for you to believe, but that is the way it goes. And, Northwest may have a great reputation in Asia, but in the rest of the world and the United States it is lacking. I can't wait to see more of Asia, thanks to this possible acquisition, if it happens.

Bye Bye--General Lee

If Anderson's loyalty was really with who pays him the big bucks he would still be at United Healthcare. They paid him more than ANY airline ever has. Still enjoying the honeymoon with Lorenzo's former general counsel? Been there, done that with RA at NWA.

As for airline reputations in the US, I think you would have to agree that there is plenty of consumer anger to go around amongst ALL U.S. airlines. NWA has no shortage of detractors, but if you think Delta has some squeaky clean image, go here, or spend 60 seconds on google with the word Delta AND your favorite derogatory slur.

Besides, Asia IS the issue regarding this potential merger. May be hard for you to believe.....but THAT'S the way it goes....

 

[Fly4hire]

Still enjoying the honeymoon with Lorenzo's former general counsel? Been there, done that with RA at NWA.

Besides, Asia IS the issue regarding this potential merger. May be hard for you to believe.....but THAT'S the way it goes....

I think a lot of DAL boys are going to be mighty disappointed when their loot and plunder expectations are not met. If this happens it's going to be a marriage of equals, or they might even have to pay for the privilege.

"The harder they come...the harder they fall, one in all...."

 

[johnsonrod]

If Anderson's loyalty was really with who pays him the big bucks he would still be at United Healthcare. They paid him more than ANY airline ever has. Still enjoying the honeymoon with Lorenzo's former general counsel? Been there, done that with RA at NWA.

As for airline reputations in the US, I think you would have to agree that there is plenty of consumer anger to go around amongst ALL U.S. airlines. NWA has no shortage of detractors, but if you think Delta has some squeaky clean image, go here, or spend 60 seconds on google with the word Delta AND your favorite derogatory slur.

Besides, Asia IS the issue regarding this potential merger. May be hard for you to believe.....but THAT'S the way it goes....

Someone refresh my memory, but how did UAL buy Pan Am's Asian rights? Was that transfer difficult? What's the perceived difference in this case? What about Air Canada buying Canadian Airlines' Asian routes? Serious question.

 

[doh]

It really doesn't matter what name you keep. If you dick over the NWA folks, they will go into a malicious compliance mode that will grind your airline to gridlock. It will be ugly.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Someone refresh my memory, but how did UAL buy Pan Am's Asian rights? Was that transfer difficult? What's the perceived difference in this case? What about Air Canada buying Canadian Airlines' Asian routes? Serious question.

I could be completely wrong here and don't really want to spend the time it takes to investigate it, but.... I believe that Japan is not obligated to allow the 5th freedom rights to transfer. In the case of United/Pan Am, the routes were allowed to be sold. However, I think Fedex bought Flying Tigers mainly to take advantage of that carriers' 5th freedom rights and the rights did not transfer with the sale.

Like I said, I could be totally wrong, but I think I read that somewhere. In this case I guess it would come down to whether it's easier to let NWA be the buyer or to grease whatever palms need to be greased in order to allow the rights to transfer to Delta.

Either way, I don't see why anyone cares. Since neither carrier is on "death's door" who the buyer is and who the buyee is will make absolutely no difference when it comes to pilots and seniority lists. The name the merged carrier chooses to operate under will not carry any weight with an arbitrator if it comes down to that. I would be far more worried about a possible furlough/stagnation/base closure that what the name of the company I work for is going to be.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

I think a lot of DAL boys are going to be mighty disappointed when their loot and plunder expectations are not met. If this happens it's going to be a marriage of equals, or they might even have to pay for the privilege.

"The harder they come...the harder they fall, one in all...."

I think you're witnessing the utter inability of many Delta pilots to believe that everybody else in the industry does not, in fact, cry themselves to sleep over the fact that they don't get to walk around in double-breasted coats. Lots of very large egos at work over there.

 

[IXLR8]

but in the rest of the world and the United States it is lacking. I
Bye Bye--General Lee

Umm..Delta isnt much if any better off than NWA in this deparment...you are delusional if you really believe that.

 

[jetflier]

...Keep your friends close,...but keep your enemies closer....

 

[jetflier]

The new airlines name is,.... .... drum roll please,... ..... .....Northwest Airlines,