NWA?DAL deal rumored within 2 weeks

[IXLR8]

Heyas,

Rumor is that the deal will be announced Monday, along with a pre-arranged deal between the NWA and DAL MECs for seniority integration.


Nu

It's Wednesday......................

 

[IXLR8]

Umm...

i have yet to see you deny that you are also 737pylt, Jmoney, scope_out_rjs, and others.

Just curious....but, wouldnt the moderaters of this board be able to identify this, if its true and put an end to it???

 

[Lear70]

Just curious....but, wouldnt the moderaters of this board be able to identify this, if its true and put an end to it???

Only if he was causing a problem that violated board rules, i.e. profanity, libel (using actual names in a slanderous manner), or just spewing hate with no underlying purpose of posting except to tell people off.

The General may not be able to talk impassionately about Delta (sorry man, I love a lot of your posts, but everyone understands the basic premise that REPEATED bankruptcies over several years as a business model is simply unethical), but he's very lucid on other airlines, even if a bit blunt sometimes.

I do, however, agree with Mr. I'm-so-drunk-I-can't-see-straight-Avatar, about bankruptcies.

Many people got so screwed by 9/11 that they had no choice in the end (furloughs, displacements and 40-60% pay cuts including their displacement AND concessionary agreement pay cuts), unable to sell house and downsize or get rid of boat/expensive car in time. They get a 2nd chance and, if they learn to live with a lifestyle that leaves them a good monthly buffer, don't get upside down on their house or cars, and keep a 3-6 month living contingency in savings, then bankruptcy served its purpose.

Same goes for the airlines. Unfortunately, history has taught us that airline managers DON'T learn from bankruptcy. They continue to reap large profits, pay off assets, then mortgage them back, drive the stock price up by having large amounts of cash on hand, paying themselves ABSURD bonuses, then leave the company shelled and impossibly in the red.

THEN they DO IT AGAIN a decade later.

It's a flawed system, and needs to stop. Unfortunately, it probably has come too late to help any of us who actually WORK for said airline(s), as does pension reform AFTER the pensions are already gone.

Attempting to justify an airline that dumps its pension obligations then makes over $250 MILLION the next quarter, $350+ Million the next, and so on and so forth (US Airways) all in the name of "the fairness of the bankruptcy process" is a deeply flawed argument.

That's similar to allowing an individual to rack up a few hundred thousand dollars in credit card debt every 10 years then file bankruptcy and keep all the nice things they bought with it.

Funny how people can think that one is a thief, and the other is just "doing business"...? Craziness.

 

[DLslug]

General, who...

Hey GL; what's up? Sure are busy on this thread today. What's with that guy your posting with...geez gimme a break!!

On the business end of this exercise, I think a DL/NW merger is imminent and the makes the most sense. UAL should be broken (sorry UAL guys) up with the best pieces going to carriers that will utilize the assests. Perhaps the most jobs can be saved this way.

All this will most likely occur this year, with the usual long and drawn-out court battles to follow. Let's just hope all the seniority issues get settled in a somewhat equitable manner. i.e. I'll probably get totally screwed, oh well!!

Take it easy boys and girls...we're all in this together.

All for now,
DLslug

P.S. Sounds like I'm running for a Presidential Primary, scarry!

 

[Superpilot92]

It's Wednesday......................

Stop Posting Facts!! You Know That Has No Business on FI!! :nuts:

 

[Zipperhead]

General Lee,


TEN THOUSAND posts!! WOW, that is a great accomplishment! Your layovers must be REALLY exciting. Let's see, oh yeah, fly to Europe, 30 hr layover, check into hotel, get to room, open laptop, log onto flightinfo.com and spend the next 25 hrs posting. AWESOME DUDE!! ROCK ON!!

It's called life, start living it....are you really accomplishing ANYTHING on flightinfo?

 

[General Lee]

General Lee,


TEN THOUSAND posts!! WOW, that is a great accomplishment! Your layovers must be REALLY exciting. Let's see, oh yeah, fly to Europe, 30 hr layover, check into hotel, get to room, open laptop, log onto flightinfo.com and spend the next 25 hrs posting. AWESOME DUDE!! ROCK ON!!

It's called life, start living it....are you really accomplishing ANYTHING on flightinfo?

Thanks DUDE...? I have been on this board for 9 years, and I respond (and increase my post total) to dorks like you, which in reality is a complete waste of time. Can anyone ACCOMPLISH anything on an anonymous board? No, but you knew that. You think you are "cool" by trying to slam me, but in reality you show your complete ignorance. And, I have a great life. Bye now and I am closer to 10,000 posts thanks to you.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Zipperhead]

Thanks DUDE...? I have been on this board for 9 years, and I respond (and increase my post total) to dorks like you, which in reality is a complete waste of time. Can anyone ACCOMPLISH anything on an anonymous board? No, but you knew that. You think you are "cool" by trying to slam me, but in reality you show your complete ignorance. And, I have a great life. Bye now and I am closer to 10,000 posts thanks to you.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Ohhh, good one, dorks like me...wow, you got me good there. Must have been a great nine years typing away trying to prove how smart you are in knowing how to save the airlines and how your beloved Delta is the best airline ever. I bet your layovers are lonely...

Rock on dude!!! Your the coolest...

 

[General Lee]

Ohhh, good one, dorks like me...wow, you got me good there. Must have been a great nine years typing away trying to prove how smart you are in knowing how to save the airlines and how your beloved Delta is the best airline ever. I bet your layovers are lonely...

Rock on dude!!! Your the coolest...

Hey, you obviously can't debate the issues, so instead you try to slam. Classic 4th grade schoolyard mentality. And, you seem really jealous. If you want to TRY to apply to Delta, the application window is open, though it seems obvious from my vantage point that you probably won't get past the initial interview, and absolutely won't get past the psych eval. Good luck to you, and try to think hard on how to respond. (try debating the issues IF YOU CAN)

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[jke406]

Don't bother arguing with GL. He is completely oblivious to reality. Delta can do no wrong, bankruptcy was great, blah blah blah.

Plus, he is forever arguing with his other screen names on various threads (737Pylt, JMoney, etc).

The previous poster's speculation on how GL spends his European layovers probably can't be too far from the truth.

 

[Zipperhead]

Hey, you obviously can't debate the issues, so instead you try to slam. Classic 4th grade schoolyard mentality. And, you seem really jealous. If you want to TRY to apply to Delta, the application window is open, though it seems obvious from my vantage point that you probably won't get past the initial interview, and absolutely won't get past the psych eval. Good luck to you, and try to think hard on how to respond. (try debating the issues IF YOU CAN)

Bye Bye--General Lee

I can debate with the best of them. However I can't debate with someone who thinks that their airline and management can do no wrong. You put every other airline down and praise your Delta for how great they do. I have zero interest in Delta, thanks for the offer though.

Keep posting, your sooo close to that magical 10,000 and your free set of steak knives.

Kick-A$$!!!

 

[General Lee]

Don't bother arguing with GL. He is completely oblivious to reality. Delta can do no wrong, bankruptcy was great, blah blah blah.

Plus, he is forever arguing with his other screen names on various threads (737Pylt, JMoney, etc).

The previous poster's speculation on how GL spends his European layovers probably can't be too far from the truth.

I never said BK was great.....It sucked for employees no doubt, but it accomplished what it needed to do for the structure of the airline. And, I never said Delta could do no wrong. I think we had a horrible strategy during the Leo Mullin administration, although Song was fun to fly. Our new guys have us on a better path IMO.

As far as my European and South American layovers go, I have a lot of fun. I usually try to get only 2 hours of sleep after arrival to the hotel, then force myself to get up, go work out, have some time to see the sites if I want, and always eat a good dinner with as much of the crew as I can. I then try to stay up until midnight or so, and get a restful sleep so I am alert coming home. It works for me.(that is the Europe routine--S America is a bit different)

See ya fellas!

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I can debate with the best of them. However I can't debate with someone who thinks that their airline and management can do no wrong. You put every other airline down and praise your Delta for how great they do. I have zero interest in Delta, thanks for the offer though.

Keep posting, your sooo close to that magical 10,000 and your free set of steak knives.

Kick-A$$!!!

Please tell me now where our current management is going wrong. Give some examples. Put some facts along with it, and tell me why you believe what you state. I am ready. Now, if I debate with you my opinion, you can't get upset, ok? Also, I have praised SWA for their management and great stews, and I also think CAL is a great airline, but with crappy bases (do you like EWR, CLE, or IAH?). So, I am ready to debate you on the issues. Go ahead.

Why is our management at Delta doing a bad job now?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[aircowboy]

I have been told Delta gave in on scope and started this rj revolution is that true General?

 

[Schwanker]

Thanks DUDE...? I have been on this board for 9 years, ....
Bye Bye--General Lee

Being the join date in GLs profile says Aug 2002, those must be GL years (That would be somewhere between dog years and human years).

Sorry for interupting. Back to Fantasy Land.

Schwanker

 

[jke406]

Being the join date in GLs profile says Aug 2002, those must be GL years (That would be somewhere between dog years and human years).

Sorry for interupting. Back to Fantasy Land.

Schwanker

He probably started with one of his many screen names 9 years ago...he can't keep them all straight.

 

[737 Pylt]

i have yet to see you deny that you are also 737pylt, Jmoney, scope_out_rjs, and others.

Ok, he is not 737pylt!
Happy?

737

 

[Jmoney]

Debate.....

Please tell me now where our current management is going wrong. Give some examples. Put some facts along with it, and tell me why you believe what you state. I am ready. Now, if I debate with you my opinion, you can't get upset, ok? Also, I have praised SWA for their management and great stews, and I also think CAL is a great airline, but with crappy bases (do you like EWR, CLE, or IAH?). So, I am ready to debate you on the issues. Go ahead.

Why is our management at Delta doing a bad job now?


Bye Bye--General Lee

I think General Lee has made a gross misrepresentation here. If he were ready to "debate on the issues," God would have equipped him with a brain.

As all who read his endless drivel are painfully aware, the General is clearly lacking the appropriate cerebral equipment to engage in any debate of any sort...

-We'll just go on and call this one a "forfeit," there General... Let's just save the spectators any precious time they may have otherwise foolishly wasted on the assumtion that you could have put up any sort of contest.....

 

[NuGuy]

I have been told Delta gave in on scope and started this rj revolution is that true General?

Heyas,

You are right on the mark. Comair was the first "small jet" operator of 4 RJs back in 1993.

Every other carrier had "no jets at commuters" clause, along with a seat limit.

The DAL boys couldn't see it wasn't just about seats, but about range and speed that separated the commuters from the mainline.

They were the ones that opened Pandora's Box. I blame them totally.

Nu

 

[~~~^~~~]

Anyone notice Delta stock was up almost 15% today and another 5% right now in after hours trading.

Someone is placing their bets.

http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:DAL

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/frame/news.html

Make that 8% in after hours. Moak's memo must have been what the traders were waiting for.

United's also up....