US Airways hiring

[ALGFLYR]

Do all new-hires go into the EMB-190 (the only $41 1st year pay scale)?

The payscale for new-hire pay on everything else looks to be $25 an hour according to APC...? $39 if you are hired under the AW contract which, since UAir is the one hiring, is a big question mark...?

$25 an hour? No way, no how, thanks anyway.

That information is NOT correct...

First year pay on the 190 is correct.

First year pay on all other aircraft is NOT 25/hr. Although that number is in the payscale of the contract, another section of the contract governs first year pay.

A new-hire on any other aircraft will be paid a salary of 3,000/per month. That equals $36,000 per year. Not saying that is great, but it's better than 25/hr...

 

[weasel_lips]

Do all new-hires go into the EMB-190 (the only $41 1st year pay scale)?

The payscale for new-hire pay on everything else looks to be $25 an hour according to APC...? $39 if you are hired under the AW contract which, since UAir is the one hiring, is a big question mark...?

$25 an hour? No way, no how, thanks anyway.

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No, it is $38,000 first year (was $36,000) if you are not on the E190. The $25.00 is wrong. + your health insurance kicks in on day one (east side).

There are still going to be massive retirements here. It might get delayed for up to 5 years, but it is coming. So, it makes sense to leave a regional to come here. Things are not that bad here, depsite what everyone says on these bitching boards.

 

[Lear70]

That's great info guys (and gals?), thanks for the clarification. That $25 makes it look pretty bad... uke: Good to know it's more than that.

Vetrider, I have my information 3rd-hand, so thanks for the clarification there, also. So you've been there about 10 years and you either just upgraded or are about to?

Pos-rate, can you move into the West payscales somehow, or are you stuck on the East payscale until something is done with a new contract?

Usually I just lurk to hear what's going on with another airline, but the integration is really making it difficult to do any meaningful learning without asking the hard questions that those who are applying might not feel comfortable coming right out and asking, so thanks for the replies! :beer:

 

[vetrider]

Vetrider, I have my information 3rd-hand, so thanks for the clarification there, also. So you've been there about 10 years and you either just upgraded or are about to?
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I upgraded 3.5 years ago, having been here 7 years at the time. Reserve the entire time.

 

[PositiveRate]

Lear,

Once you're hired on the E190, you have a 12 mo seatlock. After that, you're free to move about the system. You can bid for anything you'd like, but it has to be avail to get awarded. I've seen a lot of posts from people who are applying because they want to be part of the old America West system in PHX or LAS, but with virtually no announced vacancies in the past couple years, assuming that will change is a mistake in my opinion. If you get hired today, you're most likely going to PHL on the E190 and may be lucky enough to hold A320 or B737 in another East base at some point in year 2.

Could the company start shifting things out West - sure. That would certainly change the equation and make it much more likely that vacancies would open for bidding out here, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Jetpipeovht]

Working for a scumbag such as Parker is enough to keep me away.

 

[jmreii]

I was really surprised to hear someone just got hired with zero turbine pic.

US Air and America west have always hired pilots with little or no pic turbine time, so what's your point.

I was told a long time ago unless you are flying the same type of aircraft you are going into it won't mean a thing unless you got that swing.

 

[Deadalus]

Do all new-hires go into the EMB-190 (the only $41 1st year pay scale)?

The payscale for new-hire pay on everything else looks to be $25 an hour according to APC...? $39 if you are hired under the AW contract which, since UAir is the one hiring, is a big question mark...?

$25 an hour? No way, no how, thanks anyway.

No, I understand wanting to get out of your regional, I did 5 years at PCL with rarely better than 12 days off and increasingly uncommutable lines, mandatory junior manning and extensions, etc... There's a lot to be said for Quality of Life.

However, being a career F/O doesn't sound very appealing to me, either. America West hired almost 75% of their pilots in the last 5-7 years if memory serves. That means you'd be going to UAir with a seniority number that would put you at the bottom of the pile for a long, long time.

Unless you're under 30, you'll spend more of your major career as an F/O than you will as a CA. That just sucks... Not to mention problems with saving any money for retirement with NO pension.

I honestly haven't followed the contract negotiations much, but unless pay snapped back to pre-9/11 levels at UAir, 15 years as an F/O works out to an average of $84,500 a year, and doesn't get above $60,000 (what I need to just barely support my family of 4) until 3rd year pay.

Just can't afford to do it. I'm amazed anyone else can either, unless you're currently an F/O at a regional in which case it might be break-even 1st year...?

Unless it's a "jump on board and pray for a good raise" kind of plan.

I'm almost 4 yrs here and am at about $76k, which sucks. Hey, what is the number of that trucking school?

 

[Deadalus]

Hey I just got a line next month 80hrs and 18 days off. What the f$%! Only the second time I've ever had a line. Wa hooooooo!

 

[greyskyracer]

I'm almost 4 yrs here and am at about $76k, which sucks. Hey, what is the number of that trucking school?

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