Citation Shares Questions

[LyodChristmas]

To all who are working there:

Please PM me and share what you like and dislike about the company (this will hopefully avoid this thread being hijacked, ha!)

I am considering applying and I'd love to know what your general opinions are of the company and your QOL.

Also, my girlfriend wants me to ask how you're significant other feels about the schedule..ha!

I'm at a regional airline and would like to move on to something better as soon as possible, but I want to make a smart move so I'm trying to do some homework first. Thanks for your time!

 

[johnsonrod]

To all who are working there:

Please PM me and share what you like and dislike about the company (this will hopefully avoid this thread being hijacked, ha!)

I am considering applying and I'd love to know what your general opinions are of the company and your QOL.

Also, my girlfriend wants me to ask how you're significant other feels about the schedule..ha!

I'm at a regional airline and would like to move on to something better as soon as possible, but I want to make a smart move so I'm trying to do some homework first. Thanks for your time!

I hope you are also applying to Netjets. Better contract (especially with the new TA), more diverse fleet (from Beechjet and Ultra to Falcon and Gulfstream - check out: http://www.netjets.com/NetJets_Fleet/NetJets_Fleet.asp ), 100 potential domiciles (so you and your girlfriend can move around) and the largest market share in the fractional industry - it is by far the biggest player and leader of the pack.

Sure, do your due diligence about Citationshares, watch their corporate video:

http://www.citationshares.com/about/video.aspx

and seek out other opinions. If you actually have a choice between the two, it would be hard to turn down Netjets - especially if the TA passes.

Good luck.

 

[NJA bound]

No dude, Shares is the best, they have the bestest pilots, they make the mostest
You dont want to work at NetJets you'd have to pay them stupid union dues and have a contract and than youd have rights and good working conditions, u dont want that???

 

[texman]

No dude, Shares is the best, they have the bestest pilots, they make the mostest
You dont want to work at NetJets you'd have to pay them stupid union dues and have a contract and than youd have rights and good working conditions, u dont want that???
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Nja bound you are such a nerd!

 

[LyodChristmas]

The reason I'm asking about CS is because I doubt i will be able to get an interview at netjets seeing as I don't know anyone that works there, so I have no recommendations. Plus if the TA passes the flood gates are probably going to open on people sending them resumes.

I will apply there also, but I'm trying to be realistic about the whole thing at the same time. CS might have to be a stepping stone if Netjets is the ultmate goal, but if CS is a good place to work and keeps getting better then I might stay there, that is why I'm asking these questions.

Thanks for the info though, and I will apply at netjets also.

Back to the origional question, anyone at CS care to chime in?

 

[fly26]

You don't need a rec at NJA. Sure it can help expedite the process, but LOTS of people here apply and get hired without any help from the inside.

Also, if you are interested, why wait to start the resume/app process until the "flood gates open"? Get started now!

About the NJA 7on/7off schedule, my wife has learned to like it. I do know some people here who have spouses that hate the length of a 7 day trip though. It certainly is different than the typical airline monthly schedule, but most people love the 7 off.

Good luck!

 

[johnsonrod]

The reason I'm asking about CS is because I doubt i will be able to get an interview at netjets seeing as I don't know anyone that works there, so I have no recommendations. Plus if the TA passes the flood gates are probably going to open on people sending them resumes.

I will apply there also, but I'm trying to be realistic about the whole thing at the same time. CS might have to be a stepping stone if Netjets is the ultmate goal, but if CS is a good place to work and keeps getting better then I might stay there, that is why I'm asking these questions.

Thanks for the info though, and I will apply at netjets also.

Back to the origional question, anyone at CS care to chime in?

I know a current Netjets pilot who had ZERO recommendations. Hurry up and get your stuff in now unless you want to wait in line for a long time (especially after the TA passes). You never know - if you meet the minimums just get it in regardless.

Good luck with either CS or Netjets.

 

[fischman]

Both are good companies. I don't think you'll go wrong with either. The one thing I would aviod is FLOPS. They are in a nasty labor dispute right now.

I personally would prefer NJA, but I'm a Strong Union supporter.

Good Luck

 

[FRACTRASH]

If it's so damn good at NJ, why do you all walk around so pissed off all the time?

 

[CA1900]

If it's so damn good at NJ, why do you all walk around so pissed off all the time?

Not sure who you're talking to. I walk around happy most of the time; ask anybody who works with me.

 

[fischman]

If it's so damn good at NJ, why do you all walk around so pissed off all the time?

Because we want you to fear us...

 

[RCA]

Lets take a poll. What item of this contract will the NJ guys get hung up on this time. My guess is the Loooong seat lock. I can almost hear it now. "this company is making so much money they should let me switch airplanes when I want, other than that I'm happy.
Or the one I've heard already
" 100 bases and not a single one in central California, what were they thinking?"

 

[dime line]

I've yet to see a pissed off NJ pilot here lately

 

[fischman]

You want my biggest beef?

Contract duration. This thing has the possibility to be amendable in 2016.

 

[A4Forever]

I happen to like the 7/7 schedule. It's my wife who doesn't like the 7 days OFF!

 

[FRACTRASH]

fischman, that's what I would expect from a child. You and a lot of your co-workers love to pound on your chest. I think it looks so ridiculous, I just set back in the FBO and laugh.

 

[fischman]

fischman, that's what I would expect from a child. You and a lot of your co-workers love to pound on your chest. I think it looks so ridiculous, I just set back in the FBO and laugh.

Jealous much?

What's with the flame, man???

 

[FLYLOW22]

If it's so damn good at NJ, why do you all walk around so pissed off all the time?

FracT,

I am guessing you are FLOPS??

Don't think for a minute that we are "pissed off" in the same way that we were in 2004/2005.

I would call the "pissed off-edness" you observed "concern".

If you see a "concerned" NJA pilot, it is because we are looking out for our Owners best interests. There are many things that get in the way of complete Owner satisfaction these days. Our job is to mitigate as many of those issues prior to engine start as possible. Sometimes in the heat of battle, emotion shows through.

It's a better job than I had in 2005. Although fighting the company was "fun", I compare it to pissing up a rope. No point.

Obviously your company has a hard lesson they are learning and you are, unfortunately, along for the ride.

I, for one, hope that lessons are learned at FLOPS and you all move on to serve your owners better in those brand new Phenoms that are coming.

 

[PURPLEHAZE21]

"As the Prop Spins"...

The saga continues this week on "As the Prop Spins". Will Billy get a union at CS? Is NJ the leader in fractional airlines? Is there contract "thee Best"?...who knows...but I know this thread has been going on for years now and I wonder...If pilots egos were as good as there flying skills...would we have this thread or would it just not matter?

Stay tuned....

 

[FRACTRASH]

Is that what this is all about, trying to make CS pilots jealous. With my experience, I could work for any flight department. I choose to work for CS. So, just keep pounding on your chest and I will continue to provide 5 star service to my owners.