Pay scales for TA at NJA?

[coastinout]

I have been looking for the payscales for the TA and can't find them. Could someone please post? I looked at Airlinepilotcentral and they looked like the current payscales.
I was also curious, what does IBB stand for?
Thanks for the help.

 

[Geronimo4497]

First off, take your name off of your post. This is not a secure website.

Here are the proposed pay scales.

All new hires will start on 18 day schedule pay. First year 18 day FO pay is 69,188 base pay.

7&7 Base Wage Table: PIC/ F/O & F/O Over 40K lbs.

1 $87,500........1 $56,875 $65,000
2 $90,563 .......2 $58,866 $67,275
3 $93,732 .......3 $63,738 $69,630
4 $97,013 .......4 $65,969 $72,067
5 $100,408 .....5 $68,278 $74,589
6 $103,923 .....6 $72,746 $77,200
7 $107,560 .....7 $75,292 $79,902
8 $111,324 .....8 $77,174 $82,698
9 $115,221 .....9 $79,104 $85,593
10 $119,254 ....10 $81,081 $88,588
11 $123,427
12 $127,747
13 $132,219
14 $136,846​

Base pay prior to OT, Holiday, Ext Days

15 Day Flex Base Wage Table: PIC F/O&/F/O Greater Than 40K lbs

1 $96,250 .........1 $62,563 $71,500
2 $99,619 .........2 $64,752 $74,003
3 $103,105 ........3 $70,112 $76,593
4 $106,714 ........4 $72,566 $79,273
5 $110,449 ........5 $75,105 $82,048
6 $114,315 ........6 $80,020 $84,920
7 $118,316 ........7 $82,821 $87,892
8 $122,457 ........8 $84,892 $90,968
9 $126,743 ........9 $87,014 $94,152
10 $131,179 ......10 $89,189 $97,447
11 $135,770
12 $140,522
13 $145,440
14 $150,531

Base pay only...​

18 Day Fixed Base Wage Tables: PIC F/O& F/O Greater Than 40K lbs

1 $106,444 .......1 $69,188 $79,073
2 $110,169 .......2 $71,610 $81,840
3 $114,025 .......3 $77,537 $84,704
4 $118,016 .......4 $80,251 $87,669
5 $122,147 .......5 $83,060 $90,738
6 $126,422 .......6 $88,495 $93,913
7 $130,847 .......7 $91,593 $97,200
8 $135,426 .......8 $93,882 $100,602
9 $140,166 .......9 $96,229 $104,123
10 $145,072 ......10 $98,635 $107,768
11 $150,149
12 $155,405
13 $160,844
14 $166,473

Base pay only.

 

[imacdog]

IBB stands for Interest-Based Bargaining.

 

[C680]

Tide is rising

All new hires will start on 18 day schedule pay. First year 18 day FO pay is 69,188 base pay

7&7 Base Wage Table: PIC/ F/O & F/O Over 40K lbs.

1 $87,500........1 $56,875 $65,000
2 $90,563 .......2 $58,866 $67,275
3 $93,732 .......3 $63,738 $69,630
4 $97,013 .......4 $65,969 $72,067
5 $100,408 .....5 $68,278 $74,589
6 $103,923 .....6 $72,746 $77,200
7 $107,560 .....7 $75,292 $79,902
8 $111,324 .....8 $77,174 $82,698
9 $115,221 .....9 $79,104 $85,593
10 $119,254 ....10 $81,081 $88,588
11 $123,427
12 $127,747
13 $132,219
14 $136,846​

Base pay prior to OT, Holiday, Ext Days

15 Day Flex Base Wage Table: PIC F/O&/F/O Greater Than 40K lbs

1 $96,250 .........1 $62,563 $71,500
2 $99,619 .........2 $64,752 $74,003
3 $103,105 ........3 $70,112 $76,593
4 $106,714 ........4 $72,566 $79,273
5 $110,449 ........5 $75,105 $82,048
6 $114,315 ........6 $80,020 $84,920
7 $118,316 ........7 $82,821 $87,892
8 $122,457 ........8 $84,892 $90,968
9 $126,743 ........9 $87,014 $94,152
10 $131,179 ......10 $89,189 $97,447
11 $135,770
12 $140,522
13 $145,440
14 $150,531​

Base pay only...​

18 Day Fixed Base Wage Tables: PIC F/O& F/O Greater Than 40K lbs

1 $106,444 .......1 $69,188 $79,073
2 $110,169 .......2 $71,610 $81,840
3 $114,025 .......3 $77,537 $84,704
4 $118,016 .......4 $80,251 $87,669
5 $122,147 .......5 $83,060 $90,738
6 $126,422 .......6 $88,495 $93,913
7 $130,847 .......7 $91,593 $97,200
8 $135,426 .......8 $93,882 $100,602
9 $140,166 .......9 $96,229 $104,123
10 $145,072 ......10 $98,635 $107,768
11 $150,149
12 $155,405
13 $160,844
14 $166,473

Base pay only.

Cue the Blondie song.

Looks like NJA will remain the highest paid in the frax industry.

Rising tide should lift all boats.

 

[lookin4better]

What equipment on the property is above 40,000k?

 

[Guitar Guy]

What equipment on the property is above 40,000k?

Falcon 2000EX (soon to be LX) and the BBJ are above 40,000 lb MTOW.

 

[psysicx]

So you make the most on the 18 day and the least on the 7 day. Will that make the 15 day schedule the most popular?

 

[NJA bound]

A new hire can disregard that > 40k lbs column, they won't have seniority to hold first officer in the DA2000EX or GIV any sooner than an upgrade.

 

[slider419]

question for you all after this IBB vote and if it does pass what will the pay scale be for guys in the excel, hawkers, etc? airplanes of this category and class? when is that vote by the way anyone know?

 

[NJA bound]

question for you all after this IBB vote and if it does pass what will the pay scale be for guys in the excel, hawkers, etc? airplanes of this category and class? when is that vote by the way anyone know?

The votes are counted 12/7, if it passes the pay below will be effective 12/7, the pay is by seniority regardless of a/c type until your seniority will hold Falcon 2000EX than use the > 40K lbs numbers in the posts above.


7&7 Base Wage Table:

PIC ............. F/O

1 $87,500........1 $56,875
2 $90,563 .......2 $58,866
3 $93,732 .......3 $63,738
4 $97,013 .......4 $65,969
5 $100,408 .....5 $68,278
6 $103,923 .....6 $72,746
7 $107,560 .....7 $75,292
8 $111,324 .....8 $77,174
9 $115,221 .....9 $79,104
10 $119,254 ...10 $81,081
11 $123,427
12 $127,747
13 $132,219
14 $136,846​

Base pay prior to OT, Holiday, Ext Days

15 Day Flex Base Wage Table:

PIC .............. F/O
1 $96,250 .........1 $62,563

2 $99,619 .........2 $64,752
3 $103,105 ........3 $70,112
4 $106,714 ........4 $72,566
5 $110,449 ........5 $75,105
6 $114,315 ........6 $80,020
7 $118,316 ........7 $82,821
8 $122,457 ........8 $84,892
9 $126,743 ........9 $87,014
10 $131,179 ......10 $89,189
11 $135,770
12 $140,522
13 $145,440
14 $150,531

Base pay only...​

18 Day Fixed Base Wage Tables:

PIC .............. F/O
1 $106,444 .......1 $69,188
2 $110,169 .......2 $71,610
3 $114,025 .......3 $77,537
4 $118,016 .......4 $80,251
5 $122,147 .......5 $83,060
6 $126,422 .......6 $88,495
7 $130,847 .......7 $91,593
8 $135,426 .......8 $93,882
9 $140,166 .......9 $96,229
10 $145,072 .....10 $98,635
11 $150,149
12 $155,405
13 $160,844
14 $166,473

Base pay only.

 

[Smellycat]

The votes are counted 12/7, if it passes the pay below will be effective 12/7, the pay is by seniority regardless of a/c type until your seniority will hold Falcon 2000EX than use the > 40K lbs numbers in the posts above.


7&7 Base Wage Table:

PIC ............. F/O

1 $87,500........1 $56,875
2 $90,563 .......2 $58,866
3 $93,732 .......3 $63,738
4 $97,013 .......4 $65,969
5 $100,408 .....5 $68,278
6 $103,923 .....6 $72,746
7 $107,560 .....7 $75,292
8 $111,324 .....8 $77,174
9 $115,221 .....9 $79,104
10 $119,254 ...10 $81,081
11 $123,427
12 $127,747
13 $132,219
14 $136,846​

Base pay prior to OT, Holiday, Ext Days

15 Day Flex Base Wage Table:

PIC .............. F/O
1 $96,250 .........1 $62,563

2 $99,619 .........2 $64,752
3 $103,105 ........3 $70,112
4 $106,714 ........4 $72,566
5 $110,449 ........5 $75,105
6 $114,315 ........6 $80,020
7 $118,316 ........7 $82,821
8 $122,457 ........8 $84,892
9 $126,743 ........9 $87,014
10 $131,179 ......10 $89,189
11 $135,770
12 $140,522
13 $145,440
14 $150,531​

Base pay only...​

18 Day Fixed Base Wage Tables:

PIC .............. F/O
1 $106,444 .......1 $69,188
2 $110,169 .......2 $71,610
3 $114,025 .......3 $77,537
4 $118,016 .......4 $80,251
5 $122,147 .......5 $83,060
6 $126,422 .......6 $88,495
7 $130,847 .......7 $91,593
8 $135,426 .......8 $93,882
9 $140,166 .......9 $96,229
10 $145,072 .....10 $98,635
11 $150,149
12 $155,405
13 $160,844
14 $166,473

Base pay only.

Wow some big numbers!

Who can get 7 and 7? Junior can hold this?

 

[imacdog]

Wow some big numbers!

Who can get 7 and 7? Junior can hold this?

7/7 is the "default" schedule here, but there are a couple exceptions. When new hires start training, and when pilots upgrade or switch fleet types, they go on the 18-day schedule for that bid period. Additionally, the company must have 10% of pilots in every fleet/seat on the 15-day schedule, so if it does not turn out to be a popular schedule then there can be junior-manning to that schedule. In short, up to 90% of the pilots can be on 7/7 if they want it and zero pilots are in the training pipeline.

 

[Club ORD FO]

is there a change to the per diem? what is it now, $1.70?

 

[Guitar Guy]

is there a change to the per diem? what is it now, $1.70?

No change to per diem - it will stay at the current $1.70 per hour.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Also, there can only be a decrease of 10% each bid period on the 18-fixed schedule. So, if 40% of the FOs in the 680 are on the 18 day in Feb-May, then there must be 30% on the 18 day from June-Sept, even if everyone wanted to go to the 7/7 schedule.

 

[batsky2000]

So does the BBJ and G have a seperate scale or what? Seems that they take a pay cut, looking at the old scale the PIC scale tops out at around $200,000, and the PIC G scale tops out at around $170,000 both for a 10 year Captain

 

[Wacopilot]

Base Pay for PIC G tops out year 14 @ 166,473.00
PIC BBJ year 10 tops @ 235,601.00 per year plus Longevity bonus and you can usually add 10% to your base to reflect holidays and OT.

Waco

 

[wilco]

18 days

So if I'm reading this right, the only way a pilot could be junior manned off the 18 day fixed schedule would be if less than 10% of the pilots in fleet/seat bid the 15 day schedule? Is that right? NJA needs 10% in the 15, then there are no parameters between the 7/7 and 18.

 

[yosemite]

Base Pay for PIC G tops out year 14 @ 166,473.00
PIC BBJ year 10 tops @ 235,601.00 per year plus Longevity bonus and you can usually add 10% to your base to reflect holidays and OT.

Waco

Actually, any and all "G-wiz" positions are greater than 40k, thus the payscale going out through year 17 applies.

The other payscale, referenced as "BBJ" but in reality is "100k or greater" is unchanged from the 2005 agreement.

Brothers and Sisters... if you choose to post in the open, please make sure your information is accurate.

Regards,

 

[yosemite]

So if I'm reading this right, the only way a pilot could be junior manned off the 18 day fixed schedule would be if less than 10% of the pilots in fleet/seat bid the 15 day schedule? Is that right? NJA needs 10% in the 15, then there are no parameters between the 7/7 and 18.

Uhh, yup.

15 day Flex = 10% miniumum & maximum. Crewmember must bid for this schedule. We expect it to go senior, and we expect those on it to work an average of 12-13 days for 10% greater pay than the 7&7. Pilots can be junior manned to meet the 10% minimum.

18 day Fixed = maximum of 40%. Crewmember must bid for this schedule. Schedule includes a preferential bidding system based on 3 criteria; schedule posted by 15th of month prior. Crewmembers on schedule can go up by any amount (to 40% max) within any bid period but can only go down by a maximum of 10% within that same bid period. 18 day fixed pays 21.65% more than 7&7. New-hires and transition/upgrade pilots will be assigned to the 18 day training schedule (no posted work days) until training is completed and they are assigned to IOE.

7&7 - default schedule. If no bid is found for crewmember, he/she will be assigned a 7&7 schedule.

Regards,