What the Skywest OC won't tell you

[Nevets]

Just thought I would post one of vtech's previous posts. It shows his excellence and wisdom in speculation.

DD did get his job back you idiot. I love your attitude. So, which one are you DL, JB, TF, ME or maybe BH? No...probably not, just a moron.

If the ALPA drive is unsuccesful, you guys better not cross this guy or any other guy with a hair up his...

 

[EBE]

If the ALPA drive is unsuccesful, you guys better not cross this guy or any other guy with a hair up his...

Agreed...It's a great feeling to know that guys like that are part of Skywest pilot group. Regardless of the outcome of a union it makes me sick to my stomach to think that these types are around. These are types that probably get a sick thrill when a fellow pilot is wrongfully terminated. Guys who say. "Haha hope he was senior to me."

 

[yellowfever]

Just thought I would post one of vtech's previous posts. It shows his excellence and wisdom in speculation.

DD did get his job back you idiot. I love your attitude. So, which one are you DL, JB, TF, ME or maybe BH? No...probably not, just a moron.

His grammar is like JB's.

 

[SkyNation]

Agreed...It's a great feeling to know that guys like that are part of Skywest pilot group.

yeah, 'cause union guys are never like that.

as to the title of this thread and all the crap that has naturally ensued; what the OC won't mention (it's not that they don't know or won't tell you) is that this is far, far away from being a slam dunk for them. they won't mention that the large majority of pilots at SkyWest are mostly happy with the way things work around here compared to other airlines. They don't want to mention that the hardest group they've had selling is the 'formerly represented by ALPA group.'

This election will be very close, and I don't think either said thinks it is a 'slam dunk.' In the end, I'm still predicting something like a 40/60 split FOR/AGAINST. prepare yourselves for all the excuses and spin if it goes down as a NO vote, when the truth will be that this pilot group wasn't buying what they were selling, and their message, though heard loud and clear, wasn't compelling enough to tempt them (us) to change what we have.

if I'm wrong, I'll recant.

 

[Soverytired]

What I have told SKYW pilots who told me they were on the fence over the past few days, Tuesday is right around the corner, kind of late in the game to not know. JUST VOTE. No matter what button you push, dont be apathetic about it.

Amen to that.

Anyone who doesn't vote, whether for or against, forfeits any right to complain about any union/non-union issues at SKYW ever again.

 

[vtech]

Thats it. Maybe you can fool them into voting for ALPA.

If you call to vote "no" maybe it will trun out to be a "yes" vote if you screw it up.

If you dont call at all, its sure to be a "no" vote.

Maybe the OC can pick up a few "stupid" votes.

Desperate times call for desperate posts.

 

[Coloaviator]

Just look around the Skywest crew lounges, only 15% of the pilots care to wear ALPA attire. Well lets just say you double or triple that number for people who vote yes and you might get lucky to have 30-45 percent voting yes. The numbers just aren't there. I know its a frustrating thing for many. I am glad its all over in less than 72 hours.

 

[jayme]

how many cards were sent in, just for free food?

You could eat all the free food you wanted without sending in a card.

 

[USCtrojan]

Just look around the Skywest crew lounges, only 15% of the pilots care to wear ALPA attire. Well lets just say you double or triple that number for people who vote yes and you might get lucky to have 30-45 percent voting yes. The numbers just aren't there. I know its a frustrating thing for many. I am glad its all over in less than 72 hours.

I wouldn't wear anything either if it meant having a target on my back and puts my family in potential financial jeapordy.

Trojan

 

[Nevets]

yeah, 'cause union guys are never like that.

as to the title of this thread and all the crap that has naturally ensued; what the OC won't mention (it's not that they don't know or won't tell you) is that this is far, far away from being a slam dunk for them. they won't mention that the large majority of pilots at SkyWest are mostly happy with the way things work around here compared to other airlines. They don't want to mention that the hardest group they've had selling is the 'formerly represented by ALPA group.'

This election will be very close, and I don't think either said thinks it is a 'slam dunk.' In the end, I'm still predicting something like a 40/60 split FOR/AGAINST. prepare yourselves for all the excuses and spin if it goes down as a NO vote, when the truth will be that this pilot group wasn't buying what they were selling, and their message, though heard loud and clear, wasn't compelling enough to tempt them (us) to change what we have.

if I'm wrong, I'll recant.

The difference is that a union guy cannot unilaterally fire you. Apperantly TF can.

I don't think the OC has said its a slam dunk. They wouldn't even say that if it were. These are lessons learned from Colgan. Of course its going to be close. This is why its important that you vote if you are leaning for ALPA.

Also, don't forget that management has been trying extraordinarily hard to sell you also. There is a reason why they seem to be acting so lately.

 

[Nevets]

Just look around the Skywest crew lounges, only 15% of the pilots care to wear ALPA attire. Well lets just say you double or triple that number for people who vote yes and you might get lucky to have 30-45 percent voting yes. The numbers just aren't there. I know its a frustrating thing for many. I am glad its all over in less than 72 hours.

I have talked to many Skywest pilots who say they don't wear it for fear of retribution. Why would they fear retribution considering Skywest lost their federal court case allowing pilots to wear ALPA insignia? There is a good reason why they feel that way.

 

[joe_pilot]

And we thought Gojets pilots were scabs....At least they voted a union in !!!

Go away child, go away.

 

[Soverytired]

I hope ALPA national comes out and says no need apply at CAL,FedEX,DAL,UAL,etc... if you vote no

No doubt you would argue that the mere fact of NOT voting in ALPA makes one a SCAB.

 

[EBE]

yeah, 'cause union guys are never like that.

REGARDLESS OF A UNION!!

They don't want to mention that the hardest group they've had selling is the 'formerly represented by ALPA group.'

Especially the guys who spent a 6 months to a year on reserve at Mesa or whatever other regional before coming to Skywest and who like to say "what did ALPA do for me?"

 

[Troutbait]

EBE,

You are forgetting a basic truth with that silly comment. They are happier here. That is the truth. Who cares if they were there for a few months and came here, if not having a union is what got this company to be what it is then good for them. Overall things are good here. They know that. I was at an ALPA carrier for two years before coming here, I am happier here. You and your friend can rail me and call me a tool, well I am a happier tool here. So I can't really see a logical point in putting those guys down. Who cares if they don't know how a union works or if they never attended a meeting.....They know the difference between an union carrier and a non-union carrier.