All is quiet at Flex.

[hammer2]

With all the internal shake ups at Flexjet, it sure is quiet. I guess nothing big is happening or, IS IT THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM!

 

[johnsonrod]

With all the internal shake ups at Flexjet, it sure is quiet. I guess nothing big is happening or, IS IT THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM!

Too many people working on their Netjets applications.

 

[SDCFI]

With all the internal shake ups at Flexjet, it sure is quiet. I guess nothing big is happening or, IS IT THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM!

Internal shakeups? Elaborate por favor.

 

[walshsfly]

With all the internal shake ups at Flexjet, it sure is quiet. I guess nothing big is happening or, IS IT THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM!

If there are, were, or will be any I don't think this is the place to talk INTERNAL matters. For any company.

 

[skydan5]

Too many people working on their Netjets applications.

The smart ones will not make a lateral move to NetJets (unless you plan to retire there). They will sit back and watch those moving over to the greener grass; meanwhile, the rest of us at Flex will upgrade faster and patiently wait for management to make our company more competitive in the frax industry. Just watch. I wouldn't want to jump ship to be at the bottom of seniority if things go sour due to another 9-11. Stability is king. My 2 cents.

As I heard someone say recently.... there are some pilots that would bitch if their company mailed them a $300,000 bonus check instead of through direct deposit and they would also belly-ache because it shifted there tax bracket. Some folks you just can't please.

 

[NoPlaneNoGain]

The smart ones will not make a lateral move to NetJets (unless you plan to retire there). They will sit back and watch those moving over to the greener grass; meanwhile, the rest of us at Flex will upgrade faster and patiently wait for management to make our company more competitive in the frax industry.

Just curious, how long are you willing to patiently wait?

 

[Fozzy]

As I heard someone say recently.... there are some pilots that would bitch if their company mailed them a $300,000 bonus check instead of through direct deposit and they would also belly-ache because it shifted there tax bracket. Some folks you just can't please.

When did you get your last bonus check?

 

[CL300Pilot]

May acutally. Has happened the past 2 years since I have been here.

When did you get your last bonus check?

 

[Guitar Guy]

May acutally. Has happened the past 2 years since I have been here.

How much was the check for? Was it a flat payout for everyone or was it a percentage of that person's earnings over a certain period?

 

[NachoMamma]

I wouldn't want to jump ship to be at the bottom of seniority if things go sour...Stability is king.

Oddly enough, that's exactly what the pilots at TWA, Pan Am, and Eastern Airlines all said too.

 

[CL300Pilot]

It is always a percentage of that person's earnings over the year based on fuel savings, days worked, execution of performance and one other item that slips my mind. Usually around 4 to 5 %. We are getting one again this year as well.

How much was the check for? Was it a flat payout for everyone or was it a percentage of that person's earnings over a certain period?

 

[Guitar Guy]

It is always a percentage of that person's earnings over the year based on fuel savings, days worked, execution of performance and one other item that slips my mind. Usually around 4 to 5 %. We are getting one again this year as well.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

 

[notapilot]

My crystal ball says that if changes are made it will consist of a fancy wrapped package of pretty much nothing. At best they will reduce the days to 15 and adjust the daily rate to make us feel like we are getting more money, but at the end of the year you have made no more than the previous year. They may also offer a guaranteed schedule of more days so that it appears you can make more, but you will have to work 16-18 days to realize any raise. They will eliminate pay in other areas to make up for any pennies these changes may cost. They will not mention that these areas of extra pay have been eliminated until months later crews realize they are no longer getting paid. They will not change anything in terms of rest/duty, callouts, insurance or any other QOL issues. They will not do anything that actually costs money. Sadly, this is how they have always operated. I hope I am wrong. We will see come February. If my predictions are true maybe the SkyDans of Flex will finally realize that organization is the only solution to make positive change at Flex. I am all for getting things done without a union, but after 11 years here I don't see anything happening without one.

 

[willNOTfly4free]

Oddly enough, that's exactly what the pilots at TWA, Pan Am, and Eastern Airlines all said too.

Yes, and also SWA, FDX, and UPS pilots who didn't jump ship to the likes of UAL and DAL 8 years ago.

It goes both ways.

 

[doh]

All is no longer so quiet. A new chief pilot is in our future. Change is coming, whether we like it or not.