All is quiet at Flex.

[doylehargraves]

My guess is that he was asked to leave or go back to the line and, that is why he's been in limbo for a while thinking about it. I hope his first trip is to TEB Holiday Inn for 3 nights in a row.

 

[Wiggums]

Don't forget a 4am wakeup call.

 

[BombJet45]

Wow, nothing like wishing someone well. Remember what comes around goes around. I hate to see anyone lose their job.

My concern now is who will replace him. Hopefully someone who is a good liason between pilots and management. Personally I am pulling for KS.

 

[JokerFuel]

I heard they are looking at Frank Larenzo for the new CP.

 

[Club ORD FO]

RH is a good guy, I dont think this is a good thing for the pilot group. The worst part is that the new CP, whoever he may be, is not exactly gonna go to bat immediately for us. RH new his way around and new how to deal with the different higher up folks. The new person will have to learn all that.

 

[CL300Pilot]

My concern now is who will replace him. Hopefully someone who is a good liason between pilots and management. Personally I am pulling for KS.

I think this should be everyones concern and I agree that KS is the best candidate.

Rumor has it that some serious mud was slung and RH said that he had enough of the CP job. I personally had not issues with him and he took care of me when I needed it.

RH, I know you read these, welcome back to the line and away from management hell.

 

[NachoMamma]

So what u saying is that we should start typing and forwarding our resumes to NJ and that will be the best descision ever???

That's not even remotely what I'm saying...way to put words in my mouth.

What I am saying is that its very easy in this industry to get lulled into a false sense of security just because you've accumulated seniority. The attitude that "I can't leave this company and start over at the bottom of someone else's list" can be a very dangerous attitude to have. People should weigh all of the facts when making a decision about their livelihoods and those of their families, and make the best decision accordingly.

I'm not implying anything specific about any company being discussed on this board, just making an observation about a familiar sentiment.

 

[doylehargraves]

Wow, nothing like wishing someone well. Remember what comes around goes around. I hate to see anyone lose their job.

My concern now is who will replace him. Hopefully someone who is a good liason between pilots and management. Personally I am pulling for KS.

Hey I'm not saying "good riddance" to RH and he got what he deserved. I'm saying that I hope he gets thrown back into OUR reality quickly so he will realize what it is we've all been complaining about. He is a good person and it is a HUGE loss to our group, especially since we are so close to trying to get raises again. I will agree 100% that out of the ACP's, KS is our best hope. I just hope he wants the job because I can only think of about 2 people that would fill those shoes adequately. Welcome back to the line RH, you DID do a good job bro.

 

[finnjl]

That's not even remotely what I'm saying...way to put words in my mouth.

What I am saying is that its very easy in this industry to get lulled into a false sense of security just because you've accumulated seniority. The attitude that "I can't leave this company and start over at the bottom of someone else's list" can be a very dangerous attitude to have. People should weigh all of the facts when making a decision about their livelihoods and those of their families, and make the best decision accordingly.

I'm not implying anything specific about any company being discussed on this board, just making an observation about a familiar sentiment.

That is a true statement for any airline you work at. NetJets could close their doors tomorrow, so could FlexJet, etc. you never know. In general no job is really any more secure than any other in aviation. (

 

[MovingTarget]

Hey I'm not saying "good riddance" to RH and he got what he deserved. I'm saying that I hope he gets thrown back into OUR reality quickly so he will realize what it is we've all been complaining about. He is a good person...

You say he's a good person. I don't know him so I'll trust you. I've heard two or three pilots say the same thing about him. If he lasts a week or a year on the line, I just hope he'll finally develop a little respect for the pilots, the job they do and their life on the road.

Can't wait to hear what he thinks after living with our "average 9-hour duty days," PBS, rolling rest, early call outs, first day/last day issues, a rotation longer than three days, etc.... If he's any type of human, he's about to learn he's been just a bit wrong about the pilots for the last 10 years.

This could be a good thing. With his decade in the office, if he squawks an issue, maybe it will carry a little weight.

See you at the pickle bar.

 

[Club ORD FO]

If he lasts a week or a year on the line, I just hope he'll finally develop a little respect for the pilots, the job they do and their life on the road

dude. he IS a good guy, and develop respect? come on. obviously, you dont know him at all. Bombardier is who our argument on pay/benefits/QOL is with, not the chief pilot.

 

[hammer2]

Rick got what he deserved! He may be a good guy but, his rule with a big stick finally bit him.
Maybe he should be thankful, since, he was given the mercy he never gave...

 

[doylehargraves]

Bombardier is who our argument on pay/benefits/QOL is with, not the chief pilot.

Keep drinking that kool aid. That's exactly what they want you to think. "Well, we tried to get you what you wanted but, Bombardier just wouldn't let us." RIGHT.

All it boils down to is this: FLEXJET is the cashcow for Bombardier and the more cash mr DG gets to them, the more stock HE gets and the bigger raise HE gets, NOT US. His incentive is to maximize profit, not make pilots happy.

 

[Club ORD FO]

dam that kool aid. are they sneaking it into the Voss bottles?

 

[Deftone45075]

Damn, no more voss for me. Now what about the Aquafina?

 

[ProFracPilot]

Perhaps it has been discussed here before, but I just noticed that your VP of Ops at Flex is a UScAreways Express management alum, same as our CEO. If THAT fact doesn't get a union on your property, I don't know what will. It is generally accepted at FlOps that $cheetringa was largely responsible for a 67% "yes" vote. Do a little research and see what "success" he had at Express. I can't speak for your VP of Ops, but can assure you $cheetfinger hates the pilots here at FlOps as much as he did at Express.

 

[doylehargraves]

I'll say it again. DG is at Flexjet to maximize profit which, is good for all of us. The problem is, he is too selfish and greedy to share his profits with his employees and hides behind the excuse of corporate resistance to push it. You are absolutely right, DG is 99% of the reason this push for a union is so strong right now. Just once I would love to be shocked and slapped in the face with a industry leading compensation package from him. He has no idea that if he were to match at least NJ pay, how happy this pilot group would be and would do anything to help maximize profit. It would be a complete turnaround in this group. If they think we're good now, show us the money and you'll be rewarded as well.

 

[On Your Six]

I'll say it again. DG is at Flexjet to maximize profit which, is good for all of us. The problem is, he is too selfish and greedy to share his profits with his employees and hides behind the excuse of corporate resistance to push it. You are absolutely right, DG is 99% of the reason this push for a union is so strong right now. Just once I would love to be shocked and slapped in the face with a industry leading compensation package from him. He has no idea that if he were to match at least NJ pay, how happy this pilot group would be and would do anything to help maximize profit. It would be a complete turnaround in this group. If they think we're good now, show us the money and you'll be rewarded as well.

Great post. So few managers understand your sentiments. This is a SERVICE business and keeping front-line employees happy and motivated would seem intuitive. That said, given Flexjet's history, I wouldn't really expect any "major" changes. I suspect it will be another follow-the-leader exercise.

 

[dime line]

Great post. So few managers understand your sentiments. This is a SERVICE business and keeping front-line employees happy and motivated would seem intuitive. That said, given Flexjet's history, I wouldn't really expect any "major" changes. I suspect it will be another follow-the-leader exercise.

This sounds exactly like FLOPS. wow

 

[lunberg]

Keep drinking that kool aid. That's exactly what they want you to think. "Well, we tried to get you what you wanted but, Bombardier just wouldn't let us." RIGHT.

All it boils down to is this: FLEXJET is the cashcow for Bombardier and the more cash mr DG gets to them, the more stock HE gets and the bigger raise HE gets, NOT US. His incentive is to maximize profit, not make pilots happy.

Right Again!!