Mesaba poised to speedup???

[Ridgeback]

An idea/notion that I don't think many people have considered at XJ is the potential huge speedup that could ensue at Mesaba. Reason 1. lots of rich kid, revos wearing, new Bose headset, UND superstar F.O's in the marketplace. Reason 2. Enough six year Saab FO's just waiting to be Crj 200 Captains once they can hold it in MSP. How does it look to nwa if we are going to be able to staff aircraft in both seats. Maybe a potential on more Pinniacle crj's delivered once we get our 200 sim in order?

The ''six year fo'' is occuring for a bunch of reasons the industry sucked the last five of those six, (yea the great-ole union is going to get the seat lock down to 1 year), but still there is a seatlock. and even if the current f.o's who wont work the saab did fly the saab in the left seat, there is still a boat load of 200, and 900's coming EVERY month. there will be a long gap for many f.o's before they have the time to upgrade.

What's with the prostandards J.M last email, I am in agreeance with the idea of experience and just raw total time in 121 makes a difference with regard to upgrading, but this emailing in the fast reads has got to continue, the union is there to help the group of pilots and assist/protect them. a 1,500 hour pilot with no experience in 121 shouldn't upgrade i agree 110%, but there are plenty of good seasoned guys who are jumping other 121 carriers for the upgrade, like Southwest, United, FedEX, Alaska, scaring UND supstar f.o's from taking the upgrade is RIGHT ON!! my favorite part of his last email " You {as a captain}must now be the expert on the POM, FOM, FARs, TLRs, deicing, contaminated runways, pilot contract, and the list goes on." expert hmm tlr's i have yet to fly with a Superstar UND FO at mesaba in over 4 years that has any idea what the tl'r means.
I challenge the good ole j.m to set the record straight and be honest and not use scare tactics of " pink slips, or your job is on the line", we are all big boys here's. how about a add a boy, great job , or i wish i had the opportunity when i was first joining this company, i cant just think that there isn't justa bit of jelously with j.m , heck i'm sorta ticked when i joined it wasn't that way in the slightest bit!!

A crash, or a major accident can kill a company faster than anything, (valujet, twa) i can't fathom an airline putting a pilot in command control if they (airline) wasn't 100% certain that pilot was safe.

Have you even heard of PINNACLE??

 

[goahead]

So TWA 800 crashed b/c the pilots weren't safe????? Think you need to revise that statement

 

[piav8r]

I'm not entirely sure, but I'm thinking that this post is a spoof of the "Mesaba Poised to slow down thread"

 

[CFI2766]

Ummm, this must be some sort of sarcasm.

 

[N813CA]

As a instructor at Comair as well as a pilot FROM Piedmont. UND FO's have been a good thing to the industry.

 

[Golden Falcon]

As long as that moron F.E. is not still there stumbling around the office muttering.."paper weight-gross weight"''think his brain got frozen flying the family C-185 out of International Falls...

 

[Shobra]

But ALPA would never let two regionals be whipsawed against each other.

At least that's what the ASA guys said.

 

[flyn96]

I think the point of the original post was that Mesaba, has had a very long, (60+ years) and very safe history. Experience, has had a lot to do with it. We are now at a cross roads with the lowest time, least experience captains in our history. We've always had plenty of time to groom fo's and give them the experience to uphold this tradition. The question is how do we instill the same principles in people who will have very little, or no experience in some of the most challenging areas of the Mesaba system.

 

[fowingman]

my original post was has struck a cord in ridgeback it seems, there are people who have ego's and then there are people who dont'. There is no place in the flight deck for ego's. All i can say is, wow! you have problems buddy.
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My original post, i was trying to give my opinion on a subject. i think it is noteworthy to mention that it is a problem to mention that less and less people are upgrading who can upgrade. (keep in mind there are a lot of fo's who can't)

i'm not going to defent UND, but generalizing people tends to give a bad image of oneself. I didn't go to UND but i havea a lot of friends and co-workers that did. and not all of them had money or not even half did, so geez pal last time i looked going to a good school in the area of your career choice was a good thing. hmmm apparently not anymore..

 

[xjcaptain]

I think the point of the original post was that Mesaba, has had a very long, (60+ years) and very safe history. Experience, has had a lot to do with it. We are now at a cross roads with the lowest time, least experience captains in our history. We've always had plenty of time to groom fo's and give them the experience to uphold this tradition. The question is how do we instill the same principles in people who will have very little, or no experience in some of the most challenging areas of the Mesaba system.

I agree with you about the excellent safety record. However we have hired street captains in past. The last time was around '88 when DTW opened up after Eagle stopped feeding NWA in DTW. Now the captains then were pretty experienced, and I hope any street captains that we might hire will be the same.