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Skywest Pylot

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I'm on a trip so I've got the wife checking the mail box today. Let me know when any of you guys get it.
 
Skywest Pylot said:
I'm on a trip so I've got the wife checking the mail box today. Let me know when any of you guys get it.
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Originally Posted by FlySacto
I've had three years to look around. Talked with guys who've kicked the tires five, ten, fifteen years and more. Going to check my mailbox. Be back in 5 minutes.

I got two letters!!! One is from SkyWest and C.C. and the other is from the National Mediation Board.

Reading CC's letter dated 10/5/07: We are committed to working with you to maintain SkyWest's position as premier employer and a premier airline. When it comes to pilot compensation, we work with our pilots to remain competitive in the market, and will continue to do so. Our personal relationship is relatively new, and I look forward to the continued ability to work individually and collectively with you.

Thank you sir. As you might have gathered many of the pilots at SkyWest have come to see and experience where things have gone broken over the years. I look forward to having representation to finally get a contract that will replace the at times nebulous policies we live under today. I also look forward to having someone other than some of the star performers of SAPA work collectively with you in regards to my career and compensation as they have not done what I feel is the best job. I look to managment to maintain a good relationship with us to both keep SkyWest a premier airline and at the same time recognize that we as your pilots have done as you have, enlisted the best people we can to make our airline the premier employer.

Gotta' phone call to make!
 
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Originally Posted by FlySacto
I've had three years to look around. Talked with guys who've kicked the tires five, ten, fifteen years and more. Going to check my mailbox. Be back in 5 minutes.

I got two letters!!! One is from SkyWest and C.C. and the other is from the National Mediation Board.

Reading CC's letter dated 10/5/07: We are committed to working with you to maintain SkyWest's position as premier employer and a premier airline. When it comes to pilot compensation, we work with our pilots to remain competitive in the market, and will continue to do so. Our personal relationship is relatively new, and I look forward to the continued ability to work individually and collectively with you.

Thank you sir. As you might have gathered many of the pilots at SkyWest have come to see and experience where things have gone broken over the years. I look forward to having representation to finally get a contract that will replace the at times nebulous policies we live under today. I also look forward to having someone other than some of the star performers of SAPA work collectively with you in regards to my career and compensation as they have not done what I feel is the best job. I look to managment to maintain a good relationship with us to both keep SkyWest a premier airline and at the same time recognize that we as your pilots have done as you have, enlisted the best people we can to make our airline the premier employer.

Gotta' phone call to make!
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That was very good. A true professional!
 
Hey,
Got mine, walked into the house, sat down read the letter, dialed the phone, ID'd myself, pressed number 1. Hung up the phone, elapsed time less than 5 minutes, wasn't even too scary!
PBR
 
You know that feeling you get when you buy a used car and 10 miles down the road it dies on you. That is the same felling I got at Eagle every time alpa tried to get us something... I don't want to do that again!!!
As for my vote, I'm not going to jump right out and make the phone call.. I think I will wait and see.
 
Got mine. Wasn't out of the envelope for more than 5 seconds before a phone call was made. I wonder how many more times I'll have to go through this process before this pilot group finally gets a clue.
 
Great job, guys. Can't wait to have you on board. I honestly feel like we can do great things as a unified group.
 
Nice. I'm too new here to vote and a lot of new guys don't think it's needed, but I really want this to pass. I've got my fingers crossed!! 1.95% is a small price to pay for what we'd get in return.
 
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Hey guys, I just wanna say that good luck to you all no matter what. You all deserve great things as we all do in this business. We are ALL pro's here. I want to say that your ASA brothers and sisters stand behind you. [email protected] with any serious questions you might have, I will do my very best to get you an answer.
 
Arrived home at one o'clock this morning after a long drive from the domicile to find a letter from the NMB. Voted five minutes later.

Good luck to us all.
 
got mine today. seems it's a bill for @$1400 annually, collected in installments.

Just like any other time I'm considering laying out a bunch of $, I'm weighing my options.
 
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Haven't got mine yet and I'm still undecided. When I get it, I'm hanging on to it until the last day. Still trying to see who's koolaid tastes better.... :cool:
 
SkyNation said:
got mine today. seems it's a bill for @$1400 annually, collected in installments.

Just like any other time I'm considering laying out a bunch of $, I'm weighing my options.
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Why don't you stay at Jerry's playhouse and keep sucking his pud. Everyone knows that's what you're in for. It's no secret, Brad.

Trojan
 
the problem, just voting to vote doesn't work in this scenario. a non vote is the only way to vote no. if I vote and choose to write in IBT, myself, or the International Order of Chimney Sweeps (IOCS ROCK!), then it's really a vote for the one getting the most votes, which in this case will be ALPA.

that is why management and SAPA are telling folks to just not call at all, therefore voting 'no.'
 
I'm voting alright - it just might take several days of deep thought, laying out the issues item by item and whoever has the most checks in their favor in the end will win my vote... I used to be pretty opposed to ALPA, but SAPA has been pi$$ing me off pretty routinely lately....
 
so, are you deciding between ALPA and SAPA? not voting would be a vote for SAPA, or a vote to maintain our current structure.
 
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so, are you deciding between ALPA and SAPA? not voting would be a vote for SAPA, or a vote to maintain our current structure.
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Not so much SAPA vs. ALPA, but just ALPA in general. Fundamentally, I am not a fan of unions, but I do realize that the aviation industry is pretty unique in this category.

Yes, I would like to be represented, have a little more job protection, contract, etc, but with that also comes certain negatives which I want to think about very carefully.
 
MarineGrunt said:
Not so much SAPA vs. ALPA, but just ALPA in general. Fundamentally, I am not a fan of unions, but I do realize that the aviation industry is pretty unique in this category.

Yes, I would like to be represented, have a little more job protection, contract, etc, but with that also comes certain negatives which I want to think about very carefully.
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MarineGrunt, thank you for taking this matter seriously and thinking it through. Keep in mind your Union is only as strong as its membership. Be prepared to step up as a pilot group and endure some hardship. At ASA we've had some hardship (transfer of airplanes, closure of domiciles, etc.) Due to our diligence, we've managed to work out a deal. It HAS NOT BEEN EASY. UNION MEMBERSHIP IS NOT EASY. You have to fight for what you're worth. Stay UNIFIED. I look forward to fighting beside you. Good luck.

Trojan
 
Here's what the current poll is on the SAPA forum:
The poll asks "did you vote?" (not sure if people are taking that as "WHAT did you vote,") but here's the results to date:

78 votes yes
63 votes no
 
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umm, no.

a curiosity. do you work at SkyWest, or did you used to work here? in terms of QOL, overall pay, company health and prospects for growth, how do you rank SkyWest compared to our competitors? your exhaustive lists of complaints on numerous posts here indicates that you see SkyWest in a very bad light. referencing the items listed above, how do you think we compare to Comair, ASA, Mesa, AWAC, XJET? I have friends at all except Comair, and I know how they answer. I'd like your take to compare.
 
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SkyNation said:
umm, no.

a curiosity. do you work at SkyWest, or did you used to work here? in terms of QOL, overall pay, company health and prospects for growth, how do you rank SkyWest compared to our competitors? your exhaustive lists of complaints on numerous posts here indicates that you see SkyWest in a very bad light. referencing the items listed above, how do you think we compare to Comair, ASA, Mesa, AWAC, XJET? I have friends at all except Comair, and I know how they answer. I'd like your take to compare.
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I know this question wasn't directed to me, but I will give you my opinion since you seem to share yours on a regular basis:

Skywest is an average place to work! They have gone from above average to average in the years I have worked there. The guys in favor of ALPA want to stop the slide. I also have friends at Comair, AWAC, XJET, and ASA. Big deal! They are all happy to have a voice.
 

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