Lear 70 Defense fund

[The Victors]

It wasn't an overhead bin. Don't spread rumors if you don't have the FACTS.

Thanks, Curtis, and everyone else, I appreciate the help. It's going to be a lengthy battle...

apply to swa yet? I wish you luck getting back at AT!!

 

[likeitis]

Can you say "slander"?

I injured my back as a HS wrestler. Soft tissue injury. I was one hurting unit. Took 6 months to get any better. Funny thing was SITTING made it worse. It actually didn't get better until we told the medical experts to GTH, and I started wrestling again. Changing the oil or a tire is not the same as sitting in a crappy seat using the rudders (leg presses hurt like he11 to) for hours at a time.

After a four day trip my back is killing me and I seriously need to go home and do some hard labor or mountain biking to get it feeling better. Anyone who hasn't had a serious back injury will never understand. I did all kinds of physical labor while out with a OJI because it made me feel better. Sitting killed me.

Workers comp is a racket. I hurt my back putting my flight kit into the flight-deck holder a year ago August. It hurt immediately but was tolerable so I decided to fly the out and back and feel it out and have the company replace me on the return if it was too bad. Well it slowly got worse to the point I was just about in tears when I got back. I went to the doctor and was prescribed the standard rest, ice and heat, anti-inflammatories and vicodin. Ended up going to PT and numerous doctors plus the 2 leading back specialists in the Midwest with a common answer of surgery or the more preferred choice, time. The WC insurance company wouldn't pay for surgery and really couldn't see why I was not able to work yet. Mind you I was taking narcotics for pain up until about 2 weeks prior to returning to work. They couldn't see the conflict of narcotics and flying. During this 6 months my doctors actually told me to go water skiing because it was something I would normally be doing and physical movement wasn't hurting my back, sitting was. Can you imagine if my WC company would have had a PI photograph that? Even though it was prescribed by the doctors I think it would be hard convincing a judge or jury knowing the mentality of all injuries require bed rest thought process we have in this society.

Long story longer, I was required by the insurance company to go to a independent medical review(IMR). The name couldn't be further from the truth. A doctor whose only pay comes from WC insurance companies. Literally a hired hit man. I brought my MRI's, CT scan and numerous medical records so that he could review them. My wife and I arrived with all this documentation and then was alarmed to listen for 40 minutes to this man tell us how great he was and all awards he has received. Every one of the awards were handed out by the insurance industries and not a single one by his peers. The entire exam was standing on my toes, heels, walking around the exam table and touching my toes. He then told me to go back to work and there must be a lot of other pilots who have back pain and suck it up. As I was leaving the exam room I asked if he was going to mail back my records when he was done reviewing them. His response was that I should take them since he doesn't know how to read them and oh by the way when I go to my next flight physical I shouldn't mention this injury because I wouldn't be legal to fly. After this "exam" the WC insurance cut off all payments and my only recourse was to file with the state for an appeal which if I'm lucky will only take 15 months.

Lucky for me though about a month later I was feeling much better and able to return to work. Exactly as predicted by the specialists.

 

[Silvertube]

Lear 70 Defense Fund ?

You've got to be kidding.........

 

[BoilerUP]

Lear 70 Defense Fund ?

You've got to be kidding.........

You paid ten bucks to make that post?

YOU'VE got to be kidding.......

 

[701EV]

Likeitis,

Did you have your lawyer with you?

701EV

 

[screwed_again]

Changing the oil or a tire is not the same as sitting in a crappy seat using the rudders (leg presses hurt like he11 to) for hours at a time.

You sit in the seat and push the rudders for hours at a time....strange.

 

[Spidey]

You paid ten bucks to make that post?

YOU'VE got to be kidding.......

...more posts than hours...mmm...:erm:

 

[likeitis]

Likeitis,

Did you have your lawyer with you?

701EV

No, but my wife was there. She documented everthing that was said. I have up to 12 years to file an appeal. Still contemplating filing a complaint with the state medical board though.

 

[PAPA FOX!]

I'm just started reading this so I'm a bit late into it. What exactly happened for Lear 70 to get canned?

Thanks

 

[WalterSobchak]

Any news on Lear?

 

[Lear70]

Hey, how's it going, Sobie? Thanks for checking on me!

Defense fund is fully-funded at the present moment, attorney is continuing to collect information for the battle and waiting to see what the NPA does regarding System Board and moving forward.

System Board was supposed to be in October, but I haven't heard anything further. The more we get into it, the more we know the NPA doesn't have anyone who specializes in Workman's Comp issues on payroll and is going to have to hire someone in order to PROPERLY represent me from the grievance standpoint. They have discussed doing so, but so far haven't done so.

Have some job possibilities flying Lears again; kind of depressing taking that kind of step back in my career (10 years) but I'm hoping it will be less than a year before we can get it to grievance. The way the company phrased my termination letter is very misleading if not outright false in places and is making it VERY difficult getting any good places to look at me right now, even though I have documentation to refute the company's letter.

Thanks EVERYONE for their help... getting legal counsel would NOT have been possible right now without your assistance, and things got snug for bills at home because of some things the company did, but we're OK now, so THANK YOU!!!

I also have collected about $1,000 for Sandra (the F/O with cancer) and will be taking that down to Atlanta on Friday when I run my manuals and company property down to surrender them per TSA requirements and pick up my crashpad car from employee parking.

Sincere thanks to everyone who contributed to Sandra's cause as well... please keep helping, she's going to be out at least until mid next year at the earliest I believe.

 

[Spidey]

(602)-957-0700...God's Blessings to Sandra!

 

[jetflier]

Hey, how's it going, Sobie? Thanks for checking on me!

Defense fund is fully-funded at the present moment, attorney is continuing to collect information for the battle and waiting to see what the NPA does regarding System Board and moving forward.

System Board was supposed to be in October, but I haven't heard anything further. The more we get into it, the more we know the NPA doesn't have anyone who specializes in Workman's Comp issues on payroll and is going to have to hire someone in order to PROPERLY represent me from the grievance standpoint. They have discussed doing so, but so far haven't done so.

Have some job possibilities flying Lears again; kind of depressing taking that kind of step back in my career (10 years) but I'm hoping it will be less than a year before we can get it to grievance. The way the company phrased my termination letter is very misleading if not outright false in places and is making it VERY difficult getting any good places to look at me right now, even though I have documentation to refute the company's letter.

Thanks EVERYONE for their help... getting legal counsel would NOT have been possible right now without your assistance, and things got snug for bills at home because of some things the company did, but we're OK now, so THANK YOU!!!

I also have collected about $1,000 for Sandra (the F/O with cancer) and will be taking that down to Atlanta on Friday when I run my manuals and company property down to surrender them per TSA requirements and pick up my crashpad car from employee parking.

Sincere thanks to everyone who contributed to Sandra's cause as well... please keep helping, she's going to be out at least until mid next year at the earliest I believe.

Hope that you come to NWA, look forward to flying with you

 

[Lear70]

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

Don't think I'll be going anywhere except charter flying anytime soon with the way they worded my termination letter, but I do appreciate the support.

 

[Lear70]

Thought that was your phone number, Spidey, who is that?

Guy said he was paralyzed from the waist-down, and asked "who the hell are you? when he answered.

Nice...