Eagle? Stay away newbies!

[BrazPilot]

Eagle is going down...strongly suggest to any person planning to go to a regional....STAY AWAY. There is no future here.... pilots are quitting, and now many more will quit, me inclusive. Upgrades are 8 years plus and medium and junior F/O's are dropping like dead flies.
Once again...be smart and find another job.

Pilot morale hits bottom, management gets a bigger shovel, keeps digging.

Fellow American Eagle pilots,

It is with great disappointment that I report to you the unsuccessful conclusion of our Letter 3 grievance settlement discussions this morning. Despite guaranteed movement of Eagle pilots to American and the resulting extensive cost savings to both companies, management refused to work within the framework the unions had proposed.

We are acutely aware of how important these discussions were to all Eagle pilots. It is especially frustrating to have been so close to a legitimate comprehensive resolution of all remaining Letter 3 disputes and yet walk away empty-handed.

Nonetheless, we will now turn our full attention to vigorously defending the Letter 3 rights and the legitimate career expectations of Eagle pilots in the pending arbitrations.

In conclusion, I want to express my deep appreciation to all Eagle pilots for your patient restraint, your unwavering support, and tremendous input into this process. I also want to express my pride in seeing your local council representatives vigorously fight for your unique and sometimes differing interests in any cumulative Letter 3 settlement. You are well represented by this current group of volunteers and I am proud to work along side of them.

We will update you on the arbitration schedule in our weekly hotline which will be posted on Monday.

Fraternally,

Herb Mark
EGL-MEC Chairman

 

[BrazPilot]

APA hotline: (Allied Pilots Association)


In a four party negotiating session held today AA and American Eagle management rejected the proposed framework for settlement of all Supplement W grievances currently outstanding between the parties. While both APA and the Eagle ALPA negotiators have worked very hard to reach a comprehensive settlement framework, both management teams felt that they could not accept the proposed agreement.

Preparations are underway for arbitrations due to resume next month. We are extremely disappointed that management failed to recognize the value to both AA and Eagle in our joint proposal, but we are now working diligently to prepare for the upcoming arbitrations. Protection of the AA seniority list is a paramount goal for the APA, and we will continue to do everything possible to preserve its integrity. We will keep you abreast of any additional developments as they occur.

 

[Mike man]

Wasn't the flow through like 11 years in 2000? And upgrades on the jet like 7?

 

[cybourg10]

Let the mass exodus/mx delays/higher fuel burning begin.

 

[BrazPilot]

Yes...F/O's are already coordinating a date for mass resignation.

 

[GOULET!]

Never understood why anybody within the last 3 years or so went there. Its a solid company to RETIRE from, not go to for a quick upgrades. I have a lot of friends who still work there and seem to like it but they are all FO's where they could have easily been a Captain just about anywhere else by now. Guess it's all about your priorities. Good luck to my AE friends.

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

Shoot... I start class on the 1st of Oct..

 

[siucavflight]

Here is the latest we got from our MEC.

Fellow Eagle ALPA pilots:

For the past few years, American Eagle management has told us that we need to reduce our costs. This has been the goal in every decision, in every department, at every level.

The Eagle ALPA MEC has worked diligently with American Eagle management towards this goal. We’ve worked on the longevity issue, the Captain Qualified First Officer initiative, the ACARS initiative, the Gate initiative, and the Pairing Generation Task Force. Eagle ALPA pilots have in fact delivered tens of millions of dollars in fuel savings to management.

The negotiated Letter 3 settlement that was crafted jointly by ALPA and APA has the potential to save the AMR Corporation money, and to immediately solve many problems for American Airlines, the APA, American Eagle Airlines, and Eagle pilots represented by ALPA. These discussions, if allowed to continue, represent an opportunity for the AMR Corporation to make a short term investment that could return a significant cost savings over time.

We are asking Eagle ALPA pilots to immediately communicate with Eagle management their level of dissatisfaction with the outcome of today’s meeting. We don’t want an arbitrator deciding our future. We believe the best solution lies with a negotiated settlement. Tell Eagle management to do whatever it takes to keep these negotiations going.

The Eagle ALPA MEC will teleconference this Wednesday. Until then, we ask that you remain professional. Please stay attentive to your email inboxes and the Eagle website for more information.

 

[spacecadet1]

Eagle has become a real problem for AMR. I would steer clear of eagle. There are plenty of other regionals hiring. I know they will take anyone with a pulse; if that's all you have go for it.

 

[John Pennekamp]

What's this all about? What's Letter 3? What's Settlement W? Why is everyone's seniority at risk?