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Thanks for asking. The gutting of the USAirways contracts was due to bankruptcy, not ALPA.


I blame the USAirways pilots for the gutting of their contract, same with all the other majors. Not once did the pilot group have a contract imposed on them. You can't whine about pay cuts if you voted for the TA.
 
And in 15 years, how will the story get told in flight decks all over the country? " You see , these US Air guys were in bad trouble (for whatever reason) and were about to all be unemployed. America West comes along, a smaller but more fiscally healthy airline and sees an opportunity to get a bargain in growth. But, employee mergers almost NEVER work out and in the end America West was drug down to the bottom.

East guys- I can sure sympathize with ya. But where would you have been if someone had not come along and kept your ship afloat? My CEO (SKW) had stated pulbicly to us on several occasions that he would rather wait for a company to fail, then go go into the fire sale and get the peices at 10 cents on the dollar then deal with an employee merger. Of course he then goes and buys ASA to secure his Delta connection contracts.

I sure don't know the answer but I don't think decertifying your union is gonna help much.

Best of luck to all concerned but as the old saying goes "Stand together or fall seperately."
 
That's funny. Got to start a whole line of "Did you hear about the eastie who....(insert whine here)?" jokes. Then again, I wonder if all 5100 could be added to the annual Darwin's Award...or at least honorable mention.

What is with you?

Don't you fly for some dirt bag outfit called "Southern Air"? (Those 40 day trips / crap wages getting you depressed or something?)

Why do you insist on popping up on every forum taking cheap jabs at everybody?
 
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FACTS are just that. Facts...

I'm pretty sure that Nicolau believed that you understood that when he told the East that D'OH wasn't going to fly.

Just curious.....what do you do when the EGPWS sez "Pull Up!!!?" Decertify Physics?
 
Easties will get their raise. They will get backpay, and they will get a reissuance of the arbitration.


Make damn sure you put that Crack Pipe down a few weeks before your next medical !!!!

Just curious what color is the sky in your world???
 
I suspect you would feel a little less smug and clever were you wearing their shoes. Sit down with an Airways East guy or gal sometime and ask them about their career. You'll be singing a different tune.

PS-Are you one of those guys who goes around calling his fellow pilots short-sighted morons but also complains vehemetly at the slightest suggestion of Legacy pilot snobery directed towards Air Tran? respect

Did your elected leadership sign on the dotted line to accept the arbitraitor's ruling or not? I don't have a dog in the fight but the ruling seems pretty fair to me. Seems as though you guys would only be happy if the other guy gets totally screwed. Makes me think back to the email I got in 2000 telling me to be ready to hand over my 747-400 manuals as He was going to bump me out of the seat (yes...I really got that email from one of your fellow pilots).
Needless to say....I wasn't too impressed by him nor you thinking that it's o.k. to staple anyone...especially when your company very likely would not have been around much longer. Of course, you probably deny that.

That being said, I am no fan of ALPA national and the screw job we have all recieved since 9/11. Part of me hopes that you are successful in dropping them.
But save the "young man" lectures on your seniority list integration...you got a fair deal.
 
I'm pretty sure that Nicolau believed that you understood that when he told the East that D'OH wasn't going to fly.

Just curious.....what do you do when the EGPWS sez "Pull Up!!!?" Decertify Physics?

No. Actually its very simple. I look at the America West pilot next to me and say, MY AIRPLANE...
 

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