Anyone heard from NWA?

[nwaredtail]

I wonder why the difference in info: From the NWAALPA Web:

I am in DC-9 F/O initial training now.

Both Dom and Scott said the same thing. Down to 50 or so DC-9's by the end of 2008. Keeping the -40 and -50's. Scott did say that the untilization on the 9 will be going up.

Ed XXXXXXX

 

[BOHICAgain]

Heyas Occam,

Supposedly this news has been confirmed by the DC-9 Fleet Captain. All DC-9-30s gone in 08, with only the -40s and -50s remaining. That's over 50 hulls gone, to the tune of about 600+ pilots. You might want to give him a call to see whats up.

Things could always change, but in fairness, anyone considering NWA should be prepared for a possible flush to Compass.

Nu

If 600 pilots get flushed only about 360 would go to Compass the rest would be on the street.So any new hired would be on the street along with 200+ currently on the NW list.

 

[EV120]

It just does not seem to make any $$$ sense that they would hire, only to flush and furlough. But I'm not the decision maker either.

I would still enjoy the chance to even get the call. I would rather be there wondering if I will have a job, than where I am now, and still wondering.

 

[rock1783]

Hey, I start training in October. Is everyone going to the 9 for sure? Any going to the 320? Oh, and is it just $75 a day the whole time? Thanks!

 

[propilot]

Hey, I start training in October. Is everyone going to the 9 for sure? Any going to the 320? Oh, and is it just $75 a day the whole time? Thanks!

Congrats! Care to enlighten us about the actual interview day?

 

[jws717]

Did anyone have trouble attaching your resume, to the first app. Or is it just because i have a mac?

 

[CL600Pilot]

It's just because you have a Mac - they suck

 

[Occam's Razor]

Occam's Razor,
As an ex ACA / FLYi guy and having the utmost respect of NW pilots, do you forsee NW attempting to change any of the flow agreements with Compass to help with Compass recruiting etc. . . . I don't think CPZ is having a problem, but obviously the regionals in general are having a staffing issue. Since CPZ is near and dear to NW, do you see anything in the pipeline that we don't know or expect?

Thanks!

I don't think so. It's always possible, but I think the price we would charge for any significant changes would make it too expensive for management. Since the CPZ contract is in ink now, we're in the "that'll cost ya!" phase.

If CPZ has difficulty finding qualified pilots, they might have to start paying pilots better.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Scott wasn't in...so I talked to Dom. His reaction: "Ha! That's a good one! We're going to hire 350 pilots over the next 12-months...just so we can flush 600 pilots to Compass! That sounds like a great money-making idea! How will we make up the cost of the extra training cycles? Volume! Volume! Volume!"

Um...tell your source to try cutting-back to one spoonful of crack on his morning bowl of Special K.

Those planes will be parked but the additional pilots are being hired to cover the ramped up flying to cover the loss of the -30s.....Another great plan from the top. Also, hiring a bunch of guys an furloughing them right away is something I wouldn't put past the EMT.

 

[Smarta$$]

It just does not seem to make any $$$ sense that they would hire, only to flush and furlough. But I'm not the decision maker either.

I would still enjoy the chance to even get the call. I would rather be there wondering if I will have a job, than where I am now, and still wondering.

Expensive or not, NW had to show that they were doing something about the staffing and all the cancelled flights because the passengers were pissed. NW has already demonstrated that they have no problem hiring and then furloughing.

 

[iaflyer]

It just does not seem to make any $$$ sense that they would hire, only to flush and furlough. But I'm not the decision maker either.

I would still enjoy the chance to even get the call. I would rather be there wondering if I will have a job, than where I am now, and still wondering.

I don't think it's about the $$$ to train people - it's all PR. All the cancellations they had in the end of June and July really caught the attention of business travelers. What's the use of buying a seat on an airline for a business deal if the flight gets cancelled? Of course, we all know that NWA mgmt doesn't care about hiring some pilot, having them leave their jobs then furloughing them in six months - they've already done that once!

 

[ExAF]

Not Once...Twice

Of course, we all know that NWA mgmt doesn't care about hiring some pilot, having them leave their jobs then furloughing them in six months - they've already done that once!

No...at least twice that I am personally aware of!

 

[206amphib]

It's just because you have a Mac - they suck

yeah....thats it....you clearly know all....

 

[CL600Pilot]

Nope - don't know all.....never professed to know all -- what I do know is that I had no trouble attaching a file and 2 of my friends had trouble (both using Macs) -- coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not.

 

[liv'n_on_credit]

It's just because you have a Mac - they suck

yeah....thats it....you clearly know all....

Mac's have about a 10% market share...I think there's a good reason it's so low. The only good thing about a Mac is the competition it brings in the PC industry.

 

[206amphib]

Mac's have about a 10% market share...I think there's a good reason it's so low. The only good thing about a Mac is the competition it brings in the PC industry.

ok so at any rate, even tho this is totally off topic, i'll simply say this. As a certified tech on the mac and a life long pc user, the mac is far easier to use, never crashes, ive never gotten a virus or spyware, and I run windows and OSX on it. I can run any windows or mac program, and the mac is far and away preferred for cinematic and animation applications. 99.9% of people that try a mac for a week don't go back unless they have to for work, and even now, with windows running natively, thats happening less and less.

Anyway, back to northwest......

 

[Jet_Driver]

It's just because you have a Mac - they suck

I've got a Mac and had no trouble attaching my resume.

PCs suck.

 

[CitationLover]

macs rule. you can quote market share, but the mac's market share has been growing while the others are shrinking.

 

[mbw]

Anyone have any info on the sim ride?? I guess its on a 747-200.
thanks

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

Your sim could probably be in anything that is handy, from a 747-200 to a DC-9.

I took mine in the DC-9-10 mini-me sim. Whoo hoo! what a hoot. It was like trying to balance two ping pong balls on top of of each other. Gotta love an airplane where thrust>>drag.

FWIW, I spent a few Benjies at Flighttsafety down in MIA for 2 hours in their -30 sim. It helped a bit, procedure wise, but the power settings/airspeeds were completely different.

I miss that airplane....

Nu

 

[Occam's Razor]

Those planes will be parked but the additional pilots are being hired to cover the ramped up flying to cover the loss of the -30s.....Another great plan from the top. Also, hiring a bunch of guys an furloughing them right away is something I wouldn't put past the EMT.

Clown.

From the 9/14/07 ALPA Update:

NWA Fleet and Staffing Plan Update
On Thursday, Sept. 13, 2007, the Negotiating Committee received a detailed briefing on the current narrow body fleet and staffing plans from Tim Rainey, NWA Senior Vice President of Flight Operations.


Mr. Rainey did deny a recent rumor concerning the elimination of many DC9-30 aircraft in 2008. According to management, there has been no significant change to the narrow body fleet plan as presented as part of the Plan of Reorganization in March 2007. This fleet plan has been thoroughly briefed to the MEC and was presented to the pilots in a management road show earlier this year. Management did indicate that one factor which could impact the narrow body fleet is the level of flying for 2008, which has not yet been established, but at the current time there is no basis for the rumor that all DC9-30s are being removed from the fleet.

Pilot hiring is expected to continue at a high level through the first half of 2008, with hiring then continuing at a lower rate through the end of 2008. Factors regarding the current hiring plan: (1) movement to an 84-hour average monthly maximum, (2) expected attrition, (3) 787 deliveries, and (4) still unknown 2008 flying levels.

We will continue to track the fleet plan and marketing’s planned flying hours for 2008, and report changes noted from the current business plan, if any, as that information becomes available.

 

[XJohXJ]

Occam, do you know if NWA is going to interview Mesaba pilots? With the flow through moving towards finalization, and the tight limits on initial upward flow, is NWA planning on limiting XJ pilots to the flow through alone? I appreciate any insight you can give on this matter. Thanks.

 

[Occam's Razor]

At this point, they can't restrict MSA pilots. The Flow Thru ain't a done deal, so hiring is based on the matrix.

Haven't heard of any group being flagged.