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To a United Pilot,
The Friendly Skies
Are a Point of Pride


[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif]Capt. Flanagan Goes to Bat
For His Harried Passengers;
Still, Some Online Skeptics
August 28, 2007; Page A1
[/FONT]

Capt. Denny Flanagan is a rare bird in today's frustration-filled air-travel world -- a pilot who goes out of his way to make flying fun for passengers.
When pets travel in cargo compartments, the United Airlines veteran snaps pictures of them with his cellphone camera, then shows owners that their animals are on board. In the air, he has flight attendants raffle off 10% discount coupons and unopened bottles of wine. He writes notes to first-class passengers and elite-level frequent fliers on the back of his business cards, addressing them by name and thanking them for their business. If flights are delayed or diverted to other cities because of storms, Capt. Flanagan tries to find a McDonald's where he can order 200 hamburgers, or a snack shop that has apples or bananas he can hand out. And when unaccompanied children are on his flights, he personally calls parents with reassuring updates. "I picked up the phone and he said, 'This is the captain from your son's flight,' " said Kenneth Klein, whose 12-year-old son was delayed by thunderstorms in Chicago last month on a trip from Los Angeles to see his grandfather in Toronto. "It was unbelievable. One of the big problems is kids sit on planes and no one tells you what's happening, and this was the exact opposite."
So unusual is the service that Capt. Flanagan has been a subject of discussion on FlyerTalk.com, an online community for road warriors.
Mark B. Lasser, a Denver advertising-sales executive, came off a Capt. Flanagan flight and posted a question on FlyerTalk.com about why the pilot had been so friendly. "I don't trust UA at all but can't figure out what the ulterior motive is," he wrote.
Others quickly came to Capt. Flanagan's defense. "I've had this pilot before -- what a great guy. He does the same thing on every flight," said a FlyerTalk regular.
Mr. Lasser says he just wishes Capt. Flanagan weren't such a rarity among United employees. "Every flight before and most flights since have been so poor in customer service that this guy really came across as representing his own standards more than the company's. He's an outlier within United," Mr. Lasser said in an interview.
UAL Corp.'s United, which ranked in the middle of the airline pack in on-time arrivals and mishandled baggage in the first half of this year and next-to-worst in consumer complaints, has supported Capt. Flanagan's efforts. The airline supplies the airplane trading-cards he hands out as passengers board, plus books, wine and discount coupons he has flight attendants give away. He goes through about 700 business cards a month, and the company reimburses him for the food he buys during prolonged delays.
"He's a great ambassador for the company," says Graham Atkinson, United's executive vice president and "Chief Customer Officer," who is leading an effort to boost customer service. He hopes more pilots and airport workers will adopt some of Capt. Flanagan's techniques such as the frequent, detailed updates he gives to customers.

Air travel isn't easy for anybody, given problems ranging from storms to mechanical breakdowns to computer snafus and lost luggage. Airline workers have endured pay cuts and fights with management; travelers have suffered poor service and unreliable flights. Capt. Flanagan tries to deal with the cheerfulness challenge -- at least on the flights he works. "I just treat everyone like it's the first flight they've ever flown," said the 56-year-old Navy veteran who lives on an Ohio farm and cuts the figure of a classic airline captain: trim and gray-haired. "The customer deserves a good travel experience," he said.
Last Tuesday morning, Capt. Flanagan was at gate C19 at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport an hour before the scheduled departure of Flight 831 to San Francisco and made his first announcement about the delay before the gate agent had shown up. The time posted for departure was 8:20, but that was optimistic, Capt. Flanagan told passengers, because the Boeing 767 they would fly wouldn't land from São Paulo, Brazil, until 7:02 and then had to be emptied, cleaned, inspected and towed from the international terminal.
He tried to lighten the mood, using a joke he tells before every flight. "I almost forgot to tell you, this is my first flight," Capt. Flanagan said. Wary eyes looked up from newspapers and BlackBerrys through a long pause, before he added, "today."
Capt. Flanagan mingled in the lounge answering questions and using his cellphone to call United operations officials to ask about connections to Asia and to cities on the West Coast.
Ajoke Odumosu, a track star at the University of South Alabama who was on her way to Osaka, Japan, for a world-championship competition, realized that when she began her trip with US Airways Group Inc., her luggage had been checked only as far as San Francisco. With the delay, there wouldn't be time to retrieve it and recheck it for Japan.
Capt. Flanagan called Chicago and learned that the luggage was already in metal containers ready for loading on the 767, and couldn't be retagged. He called San Francisco and found a manager who agreed to pull Ms. Odumosu's bags aside and retag them for Osaka. In all, he spent 15 minutes on the problem.
"I was glad he went out of his way, which he didn't have to do," Ms. Odumosu said.
Once the plane was ready for boarding, Capt. Flanagan passed out cards with information about the Boeing 767. On every flight, he signs two of the cards on the back and, if there is wine left over from first class, he announces that passengers with his signature have won bottles of wine.
When the movie ended, flight attendants passed out napkins and passengers were invited to write notes about experiences on United -- good or bad. Fifteen were selected to receive a coupon for a 10% discount on a future United flight, and Capt. Flanagan posts the passengers' notes in crew rooms or sends them on to airport managers when they raise specific issues.
Randall Levelle of Morgantown, W.Va., and his family were flying to San Francisco because his father-in-law had just died. Capt. Flanagan invited Mr. Levelle's three children into the cockpit during boarding.
"If other folks in the airline industry had the same attitude, it would go a long way to mitigating some of the negative stuff that has come about in the last four or five years," Mr. Levelle said.

WSJ
 
To a United Pilot,
The Friendly Skies
Are a Point of Pride

[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif]Capt. Flanagan Goes to Bat[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif]For His Harried Passengers;[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif]Still, Some Online Skeptics[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif]August 28, 2007; Page A1[/FONT]
Capt. Denny Flanagan is a rare bird in today's frustration-filled air-travel world -- a pilot who goes out of his way to make flying fun for passengers.
When pets travel in cargo compartments, the United Airlines veteran snaps pictures of them with his cellphone camera, then shows owners that their animals are on board. In the air, he has flight attendants raffle off 10% discount coupons and unopened bottles of wine. He writes notes to first-class passengers and elite-level frequent fliers on the back of his business cards, addressing them by name and thanking them for their business. If flights are delayed or diverted to other cities because of storms, Capt. Flanagan tries to find a McDonald's where he can order 200 hamburgers, or a snack shop that has apples or bananas he can hand out. And when unaccompanied children are on his flights, he personally calls parents with reassuring updates. "I picked up the phone and he said, 'This is the captain from your son's flight,' " said Kenneth Klein, whose 12-year-old son was delayed by thunderstorms in Chicago last month on a trip from Los Angeles to see his grandfather in Toronto. "It was unbelievable. One of the big problems is kids sit on planes and no one tells you what's happening, and this was the exact opposite."
So unusual is the service that Capt. Flanagan has been a subject of discussion on FlyerTalk.com, an online community for road warriors.
Mark B. Lasser, a Denver advertising-sales executive, came off a Capt. Flanagan flight and posted a question on FlyerTalk.com about why the pilot had been so friendly. "I don't trust UA at all but can't figure out what the ulterior motive is," he wrote.
Others quickly came to Capt. Flanagan's defense. "I've had this pilot before -- what a great guy. He does the same thing on every flight," said a FlyerTalk regular.
Mr. Lasser says he just wishes Capt. Flanagan weren't such a rarity among United employees. "Every flight before and most flights since have been so poor in customer service that this guy really came across as representing his own standards more than the company's. He's an outlier within United," Mr. Lasser said in an interview.
UAL Corp.'s United, which ranked in the middle of the airline pack in on-time arrivals and mishandled baggage in the first half of this year and next-to-worst in consumer complaints, has supported Capt. Flanagan's efforts. The airline supplies the airplane trading-cards he hands out as passengers board, plus books, wine and discount coupons he has flight attendants give away. He goes through about 700 business cards a month, and the company reimburses him for the food he buys during prolonged delays.
"He's a great ambassador for the company," says Graham Atkinson, United's executive vice president and "Chief Customer Officer," who is leading an effort to boost customer service. He hopes more pilots and airport workers will adopt some of Capt. Flanagan's techniques such as the frequent, detailed updates he gives to customers.

Air travel isn't easy for anybody, given problems ranging from storms to mechanical breakdowns to computer snafus and lost luggage. Airline workers have endured pay cuts and fights with management; travelers have suffered poor service and unreliable flights. Capt. Flanagan tries to deal with the cheerfulness challenge -- at least on the flights he works. "I just treat everyone like it's the first flight they've ever flown," said the 56-year-old Navy veteran who lives on an Ohio farm and cuts the figure of a classic airline captain: trim and gray-haired. "The customer deserves a good travel experience," he said.
Last Tuesday morning, Capt. Flanagan was at gate C19 at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport an hour before the scheduled departure of Flight 831 to San Francisco and made his first announcement about the delay before the gate agent had shown up. The time posted for departure was 8:20, but that was optimistic, Capt. Flanagan told passengers, because the Boeing 767 they would fly wouldn't land from São Paulo, Brazil, until 7:02 and then had to be emptied, cleaned, inspected and towed from the international terminal.
He tried to lighten the mood, using a joke he tells before every flight. "I almost forgot to tell you, this is my first flight," Capt. Flanagan said. Wary eyes looked up from newspapers and BlackBerrys through a long pause, before he added, "today."
Capt. Flanagan mingled in the lounge answering questions and using his cellphone to call United operations officials to ask about connections to Asia and to cities on the West Coast.
Ajoke Odumosu, a track star at the University of South Alabama who was on her way to Osaka, Japan, for a world-championship competition, realized that when she began her trip with US Airways Group Inc., her luggage had been checked only as far as San Francisco. With the delay, there wouldn't be time to retrieve it and recheck it for Japan.
Capt. Flanagan called Chicago and learned that the luggage was already in metal containers ready for loading on the 767, and couldn't be retagged. He called San Francisco and found a manager who agreed to pull Ms. Odumosu's bags aside and retag them for Osaka. In all, he spent 15 minutes on the problem.
"I was glad he went out of his way, which he didn't have to do," Ms. Odumosu said.
Once the plane was ready for boarding, Capt. Flanagan passed out cards with information about the Boeing 767. On every flight, he signs two of the cards on the back and, if there is wine left over from first class, he announces that passengers with his signature have won bottles of wine.
When the movie ended, flight attendants passed out napkins and passengers were invited to write notes about experiences on United -- good or bad. Fifteen were selected to receive a coupon for a 10% discount on a future United flight, and Capt. Flanagan posts the passengers' notes in crew rooms or sends them on to airport managers when they raise specific issues.
Randall Levelle of Morgantown, W.Va., and his family were flying to San Francisco because his father-in-law had just died. Capt. Flanagan invited Mr. Levelle's three children into the cockpit during boarding.
"If other folks in the airline industry had the same attitude, it would go a long way to mitigating some of the negative stuff that has come about in the last four or five years," Mr. Levelle said.

WSJ
This is what we at SOUTHWEST do everyday!
 
Cool stuff... problem is... if every pilot was like that the system couldn't handle it.... too bad UAL doesn't support him from the top down....

Cool stuff though... its airline employees who refuse to be what their managers are that make travel bearable... and management knows it and they exploit it...
 
Funny how you never hear of an emergency room doctor going out and buying 200 cheeseburgers for the folks siting around for hours in the waiting room. Oh yeah, that's because he an professional and sticks to the job he was educated/trained/hired to do.

When does he actually do his job and fly the aircraft from point A to point B?
 
Funny how you never hear of an emergency room doctor going out and buying 200 cheeseburgers for the folks siting around for hours in the waiting room. Oh yeah, that's because he an professional and sticks to the job he was educated/trained/hired to do.

When does he actually do his job and fly the aircraft from point A to point B?

Doctors don't have the down time that pilots have during a long delay. I would rather that doctor help out patients rather than buying burgers and resulting in even longer delays in the waiting room. When there is a long delay what would you rather the pilot be doing than helping the passengers? Buying 200 burgers is an extreme example, but I thought it was cool he called ahead to have the manager pull a passengers bags and retag them.

He is taking care of his passengers because (in his mind) that is what he is paid to do. In your mind, you are paid to fly from point A to point B.
 
Funny how you never hear of an emergency room doctor going out and buying 200 cheeseburgers for the folks siting around for hours in the waiting room. Oh yeah, that's because he an professional and sticks to the job he was educated/trained/hired to do.

When does he actually do his job and fly the aircraft from point A to point B?

What a great analogy... my thoughts exactly!

BBB
 
This is what we at SOUTHWEST do everyday!


Really? you give out wine left over from FIRST CLASS? You reroute bags to OSAKA? You have raffles AFTER THE MOVIE? You pass out cards with info on the 767? You buy 200 burgers for pax? (I guess you buy enough for seconds...):rolleyes:
 
Funny how you never hear of an emergency room doctor going out and buying 200 cheeseburgers for the folks siting around for hours in the waiting room.

No but I have read several stories about Doctors who do things for their patients above and beyond sticking a finger up their ass and telling them to cough. The nicer stories get turned into movies with Robin Williams. Robin Williams sadly doesn't make movies about pilots, Wilt Chamberlain does though so that has to count for something.
 
He is taking care of his passengers because (in his mind) that is what he is paid to do. In your mind, you are paid to fly from point A to point B.

He's acting like a customer service agent would today or perhaps a steward would years ago. A captain of an ocean going vessel would DELEGATE customer service issues such as this so as not to denigrate (lower) the status of the captain (highest ranking on the ship!)

Sort of like Bush confirming the travel plans of white house tour visitors... perhaps a stretch, but you get the point. Same philosophical reason I oppose flight crew from cleaning the cabin/lavatories on through flights.

"A few minutes before the captain was scrubbing the crapper, now suddenly I'm supposed to respect his "authority" and do what?"

BBB
 
I would guess that it would be called customer service.....

This is a lost art. Good on him.

A350
 
I would guess that it would be called customer service.....

This is a lost art. Good on him.

A350

BAD on him. Definitely NOT a military man with a clue for authority.

Imagine Patton or MacArthur scrubbing the latrines so they could appear as part of "the team" and not elitist!

BBB
 
Really? you give out wine left over from FIRST CLASS? You reroute bags to OSAKA? You have raffles AFTER THE MOVIE? You pass out cards with info on the 767? You buy 200 burgers for pax? (I guess you buy enough for seconds...):rolleyes:

WE take care of our pax. wine from first class No but hey what do i know our coach only airplane just doesnt make any money does it, we have the lowest rate of pax complaints among the big boys but again what do i know, but most importantly we treat people with respect something that this united pilot understands but you do not.
 
BAD on him. Definitely NOT a military man with a clue for authority.

Imagine Patton or MacArthur scrubbing the latrines so they could appear as part of "the team" and not elitist!

Patton and MacArthur were in the business of leading young men into combat and potential death, they weren't running a service industry.
 
WE take care of our pax. wine from first class No but hey what do i know our coach only airplane just doesnt make any money does it, we have the lowest rate of pax complaints among the big boys but again what do i know, but most importantly we treat people with respect something that this united pilot understands but you do not.


Your day is coming over there at SWA...soon. I remember not too long ago when one of your pilots gloated about all the money you at SWA made not just in salary but in corporate earnings...so far so good but it isn't sunny all the time...
 
Funny thing is that UAL says that this is great customer service for their airline. UAL also reimburses Flanagan too.......that being said, assume for a minute that all UAL pilots tomorrow would be doing the same thing. Something tells me that UAL mgmt wouldnt support the free wine, 10% coupons, complimentary bananas and apples etc. Thye would put a stop to what they say is great.

Then again, I wonder why is that there is perhaps only one UAL pilot that does this type of customer service? Seriously, what do all of you other UAL guys think about it and if its that great, why isnt everyone doing it? Last but not least, it is somewhat funny to hear someone say,"and this is my first flight." But unfortunately for those without a sense of humor and in this politically correct world, that can seriously be perceived in a literal sense causing some to wonder about even flying with him.

Im supposed to fly on UAL this week. Wonder if I can get some free wine, apples, bananas, and a 10% off coupon too..........something tells me that I wont though........I might have to buy some peanuts on the plane instead.
 
Patton and MacArthur were in the business of leading young men into combat and potential death, they weren't running a service industry.

Oh puhleez forgive me for YOUR inability to see an analogy! Imagine YOUR CEO scrubbing the toilet in the corporate office, emptying the waste baskets, and vacuuming the floors... all in an attempt to appear to be "one of the team".

Wouldn't you hope/pray he has better (more worthy) things to be contemplating?

Same goes for the captain of a delayed flight. Wouldn't you as a passenger hope/pray that a customer service agent (let alone THE captain of the flight!) work the crowd trying to appease the customers.

Along the same lines... how would you feel if you saw your surgeon cleaning up the operating room prior to your surgery? Would you honestly feel... "Hey, what a great fella to be helping out and cleaning up"... or would you be questioning the the financial health of a hospital that requires its most accomplished/educated/esteemed colleagues to mop up the goop from the previous surgery?

BBB
 
Doctors don't have the down time that pilots have during a long delay. I would rather that doctor help out patients rather than buying burgers and resulting in even longer delays in the waiting room. When there is a long delay what would you rather the pilot be doing than helping the passengers? Buying 200 burgers is an extreme example, but I thought it was cool he called ahead to have the manager pull a passengers bags and retag them.

He is taking care of his passengers because (in his mind) that is what he is paid to do. In your mind, you are paid to fly from point A to point B.

Calling for catering to restock items left out is in the job description. Calling ops to have a bag retaged is in the job description. Calling to have fuel removed so that all paxs and bags can be accomodated is in the job description. Taking pictures of animals to be loaded in the cargo bin and then showing them to the paxs is not in the job description. Cleaning the cabin with the FA's after each leg is not in the job description. Spending whats left of your check on apples and big macs after your CEO raped you and all of your employees of pay, benefits, and retirements, is definetely not in the job descriprion.
 

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