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flyinhigh21

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Does anyone know why Piedmont no longer has the .pdf pilot application on their website? It was just there a few days ago.

On another note, I saw that their published mins were just a multi commercial. I know everyone talks about this, but do people with merely a wet CMEL actually get hired, or just able to submit their apps?
 
i'm actually going to put in a referral form for someone with 300 hrs and 9 multi. actually achieved a rating with 9 hours. amazing.
 
Apply with a Multi Comm, can't hurt. I've heard we hire as low. As for the application, the fax machine in SBY doesn't work half the time, why would anything else?
 
Apply with a Multi Comm, can't hurt. I've heard we hire as low. As for the application, the fax machine in SBY doesn't work half the time, why would anything else?

i think everything in sby is useless. we got a re-route for philly (airborne) and figured we'd call dispatch to see if the POS selcal would work. they couldn't figure out how much extra fuel we would need because we already took off. told us to "monitor your fuel situation". thanks dips$#t!
 
What is the junior base at PDT right now?

EDIT: On another note, of the domicile cities, which is the nicest to live in (not taking commuting into account)?
 
i think everything in sby is useless. we got a re-route for philly (airborne) and figured we'd call dispatch to see if the POS selcal would work. they couldn't figure out how much extra fuel we would need because we already took off. told us to "monitor your fuel situation". thanks dips$#t!

Haha that's funny! The other day we where on the ground at PHL with a re-route to CRW. Now with a 425 mile route we figured we should call dispatch. They said it would take them ten minutes, just go. The Cap said "no!" Dispatch said just put in in your KNS. We said F-it and went. We where just going to land at PIT and get more fuel. Yes PIT that's how far out of the way this was. We got direct ten minutes later.

Yes I did file an ASAP for taking off without knowing the min fuel.
 
i think everything in sby is useless. we got a re-route for philly (airborne) and figured we'd call dispatch to see if the POS selcal would work. they couldn't figure out how much extra fuel we would need because we already took off. told us to "monitor your fuel situation". thanks dips$#t!

And you can't monitor your fuel situation?


I learned early on when I upgrade that you are on your own! Theres a hand full of good dispatchers, and that it! I usually tell them how to do there job! But if you can't manage your own fuel you have problems!!!!

I am with M2 however! You should know your Min. Fuel before departing! But when your airborne all those numbers go out the window!
 
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And you can't monitor your fuel situation?


I learned early on when I upgrade that you are on your own! Theres a hand full of good dispatchers, and that it! I usually tell them how to do there job! But if you can't manage your own fuel you have problems!!!!

I am with M2 however! You should know your Min. Fuel before departing! But when your airborne all those numbers go out the window!

of course we can manage our own fuel and we knew that we were fine. took off with some extra and could actually hold if we had to. it's just amazing that in 2007 we have absolutely zero technology helping us. "just go" that is crazy. are they hiring dipatchers right out of high school now? they must be making a ridiculous amount of money off of us because they don't invest anything into pdt.
 
Pay for Dispatchers is crap ,so you get what you pay for. Remember, they're not ther because the comany wants them. They're there because the FAA requires them.
 
Pay for Dispatchers is crap ,so you get what you pay for. Remember, they're not ther because the comany wants them. They're there because the FAA requires them.

Bingo!


And Jelly I wasn't bustin on you! If it came out that way I'm sorry! But you will find out when you upgrade that it can be lonely as hell over there in the left seat with a worthless 200hr pilot to your right and a dispatcher that has no clue of the weather your about to fly into!
I can't count how many times I had to make them aware that I could not go the normal route because of a line of Embedded Storms! There answer, "Oh Yea, Okay lets change that for you"!
Now there a few up there in SBY that do a good job, but like woxon says, "you play peanuts, you get a bunch of monkeys"!
 
Bingo!


And Jelly I wasn't bustin on you! If it came out that way I'm sorry! But you will find out when you upgrade that it can be lonely as hell over there in the left seat with a worthless 200hr pilot to your right and a dispatcher that has no clue of the weather your about to fly into!
I can't count how many times I had to make them aware that I could not go the normal route because of a line of Embedded Storms! There answer, "Oh Yea, Okay lets change that for you"!
Now there a few up there in SBY that do a good job, but like woxon says, "you play peanuts, you get a bunch of monkeys"!


o ya i understand. it's just scary that they let these airplanes in the sky without a certain amount of technology. thank god for the experience we have at this company. i had a captain sigh when he saw me and it wasn't a fresh outta college guy and i've only been here for a year. what the hell do i know!?!
 
o ya i understand. it's just scary that they let these airplanes in the sky without a certain amount of technology. thank god for the experience we have at this company. i had a captain sigh when he saw me and it wasn't a fresh outta college guy and i've only been here for a year. what the hell do i know!?!

Oh Yea! I love my naps, and I ain't getting one with a 200hr pilot! ;-)
 
Forward me your resume and cover letter and I will submit it and a recommendation for you.
They need pilots and they are willing to train 300 hour guys.
We have a guy with 248 hours 50 of which are sim time.
They help you through the tough tough training.

[email protected]
 
Jeesh WSurf, is your "." button broken? Nothing but !!!s for you today huh?

BTW, that wasn't you on our jumpseat coming back into EWN two days ago was it?
 
what do you guys think of me submitting a referral form for a guy with 321 tt and 9 hours of twin. worth the shot for $500??
 
Haha that's funny! The other day we where on the ground at PHL with a re-route to CRW. Now with a 425 mile route we figured we should call dispatch. They said it would take them ten minutes, just go. The Cap said "no!" Dispatch said just put in in your KNS. We said F-it and went. We where just going to land at PIT and get more fuel. Yes PIT that's how far out of the way this was. We got direct ten minutes later.

Yes I did file an ASAP for taking off without knowing the min fuel.

Guys, this is so crazy that I am breaking my silence to post. So glad I wasn't working on this shift. WX must have been rotten. Anyway, we in dispatch absolutely have the technology to calculate the new burn. In fact, dispatchers learn how to calculate burn using math or that goofy E6-B that you probably used back in flight school before they even get to use the computer. Next time, make us work for you. We can do so much more than just order crewmeals! It will only make it easier for the next time. Still can't believe you left with that much of a reroute and no amendment to MFUL. Glad you ASAPed it. Mgmt will be all over that dispatcher to prevent this from happening again.
 
Daviator how are you going to give a rec when you are so wet behind the ears?
I guess you want another $500 to go with your $2500 off Ioe money..:eek:
 
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Does anyone know why Piedmont no longer has the .pdf pilot application on their website? It was just there a few days ago.

On another note, I saw that their published mins were just a multi commercial. I know everyone talks about this, but do people with merely a wet CMEL actually get hired, or just able to submit their apps?


Wow,

How times change. When I interviewed at PDT, the HENSON sign was still on the hangar in SBY (it was changed to "Piedmont" when I showed up for class 1 week later)....figure 93 or so.

I had 3000 hours, previous scheduled 135 (commuter rules, back then), and 1400 turbine. If you can believe it, I was the LOW timer of the group. We had LOTS of experience...some guys had 5000 TT and 1000+ PIC.

As is always the case, my bad karma made things worse there...right after I got there, they lost a whole bunch of flying to FloridaGulf (part of Mesa), and so began a downhill spiral for the place. It was never the same.

Nu
 
Yeah, no kidding about times changing. I've been following the airlines as an aspiring pilot sine 1999 when I was a brand new teenager and even from back just then this job market is friggin nuts. Even though I'm just breaking into this thing professionally, I am trying to appreciate that this market is pretty crazy historically.
 
Best advice I can give you is stay away from PDT this pface is F++K up like nothing like you ever seen before, and even if you worked here good luck getting pay what they own you...
 
How times change.

Word. I was one of those smarta**es from an aviation school with lowered mins, and I still remember what one of my instructors told me: "This [the Dash] is a lot of airplane to handle at 1000 hours...a lot of airplane."
 
Word. I was one of those smarta**es from an aviation school with lowered mins, and I still remember what one of my instructors told me: "This [the Dash] is a lot of airplane to handle at 1000 hours...a lot of airplane."


True dat. Comming from the 1900, the Ocho took a lot of studying to get down pat. DC gens, AC gens, TRUs, solid state inverters, AHRS, SAHS...not to mention keeping 180 till the marker and trying to slow down without pushing the props up.

Fun times. It was a good company with a lot of history and the best contract in the industry when I got hired. I remember getting my uniform fitted (!) in the trailer in the hangar (picture that).

There was funky 60's style decor in the hangar offices, really cheesy wood panneling upstairs in the classrooms, and there was actually a bunk room down the hall from the old 99 days. Old Rei Torres would go "hellloooo?"

Lunch in the terminal was most amusing. If you ordered fries with your 0.0003 lb burger, you got like 3 fries total.

I still remember sitting with 2 of my buds at a joint behind the Hilton they put us up at (at company expense, making full pay/per diem from the first day). We were 24-25, drinking and eating crab cakes, us going to LYH, ORF and EWN the next day. You'd have though we'd just sh!t golden eggs.

But it couldn't last.

The Mesa deal in 93 really was only the first blow.
When Mesa got the first USAir RJs in 96, that really drove the stake in.

It's a place lost in time. One day, some manager at USAir is going wake up and go "WTF?" and sell the place off or break it up. Too bad, really...it's the last of the breed (Britt, Ransome, Rocky Mountan, PBA, etc...)

Good luck fellas...I laugh when they say that "flow through/jets are right around the corner!". They told us that back in 93.

Nu
 
Really cheesy "wood" paneling never went away. Timeless, classic decor like that will never go out of style.
 
I read in the recent issue of Air Transport World that Piedmont's fleet is going to be revamped. Something about how first they were focused on the Airbus order for mainline, and now they are going to focus on Piedmont. If I can get the exact quote tomorrow, I will post it.

A lot of people think that the latest info is that turboprops are going away, but the latest LATEST info is that turboprops are more economical on certain routes.
 
Well, folks that weren't caught up in the love affair with cute little jets knew that all along. Sucking down a disproportionate amount of fuel for the amount of payload is not smart with these fuel prices. Neither was U group snubbing their nose at Bombardier's offer of 400s for 100 lease rates years ago just to keep the dash 8 plant open. PDT could be sitting on a huge fleet of 400s, but U decided little jets were the future of the airline. Good old Gangwahl, Wolf, and Siegel, I hope they're living well. Now they decide they do want 400s, but the order list is long and distinguished. They could have owned that order list to this day, but you just can't fix stupid.
 
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Why do we need new airplanes??? The new paint jobs will preserve these bastards another decade or so...

Oooooooo. Maybe the painting program is so we can unload them on the ever expanding Colgan boys and then take Island Air's -400's, keep their paint job, and start up the florida/carib flying again.
Oh wait, we have all these dudes with retirement plans they would like to see disappear, we're screwed!!!!!
 

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