Great news story about us!!

[siucavflight]

Finally someone got it right!!
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=477722795

 

[John Pennekamp]

That one's better than the last, but still no comparison to the blond in the black bikini.

 

[UnstableAviator]

Eh, the media isn't going to raise the wage, the market will dictate that.

 

[siucavflight]

Eh, the media isn't going to raise the wage, the market will dictate that.

You are exactly right, but it is good to let the public know what we are making.

 

[ex j-41]

still misleading.
He told them we are making $18-$20/hour. To all the uneducated ones out there that is still 5 times the minimum wage. What he should of said is that pilots are making $20k/year.

 

[siucavflight]

still misleading.
He told them we are making $18-$20/hour. To all the uneducated ones out there that is still 5 times the minimum wage. What he should of said is that pilots are making $20k/year.

He did say that it is only for 80 hours of work a month.

 

[flyf15]

He did say that it is only for 80 hours of work a month.

So now they also think we're lazy and have the easiest job in the world.

 

[DrewBlows]

Eh, the media isn't going to raise the wage, the market will dictate that.

You get what you negotiate, not what the "market will dictate". Once a pilot group accepts this they will be better off.

 

[Dubya]

still misleading.
He told them we are making $18-$20/hour. To all the uneducated ones out there that is still 5 times the minimum wage. What he should of said is that pilots are making $20k/year.

If you were paying attention, he clarified that point. Unfortunately, as shown by your post, even those in our profession aren't paying attention.

W

 

[Dubya]

If you were paying attention, he clarified that point. Unfortunately, as shown by your post, even those in our profession aren't paying attention.

W

And just so I don't sound adversarial, we can't afford to pay attention.

W

 

[urflyingme?!]

And just so I don't sound adversarial, we can't afford to pay attention.

W

hilarious
skyw alpa now

 

[ex j-41]

If you were paying attention, he clarified that point. Unfortunately, as shown by your post, even those in our profession aren't paying attention.

W

I guess you just misunderstood what i was saying.
We need to stop broadcasting the fact that we make ie: $25/hr. Because it is misleading. The public and potential pilots see this as a windfall. So we must be careful to not say false truths.
The reality is that many many pilots make less than $25k/year. And having a TAFB of 350plus hours. Duty times in excess of 10hrs a day or 200hrs/month. Reality is we are working 50hrs a week.
Based on $25k/year this is $10.41/hr worked. I like to call it Time in Uniform. I know we get paid by the flight hour, but don't you do a walkaround? Take a shuttle van to the airport? Jepp updates? Go through security? ATIS? Checklists?....All before you are "on the clock".
OK some work more or less or whatever this is just a representation of how saying that you get paid $25/hr is misleading.

 

[JoeMerchant]

A high school graduate can become an RJ FO after 10 months at one of the "puppy mills". Can any other "profession" do that? Maybe we should address the qualification aspect of this? Just a thought....

If a 200 hour wonder spends 10 months learning how to sit in the right seat, then signs up to work for $20 per hour... I have little sympathy as that is part of the problem......

 

[Sticky]

If a 200 hour wonder spends 10 months learning how to sit in the right seat, then signs up to work for $20 per hour... I have little sympathy as that is part of the problem......

What does that have to do with pay? Although I don't like the idea of 10 month/200 hour FOs, it really has nothing to do with pay scales.

 

[JoeMerchant]

What does that have to do with pay? Although I don't like the idea of 10 month/200 hour FOs, it really has nothing to do with pay scales.

I guess you don't understand the law of supply and demand then..... If we tighten up on the requirements to occupy the right seat, the pay will come up accordingly.....

Based on their qualifications, one could argue that they are overpaid based on the qualifications....

Can you name any other profession that allows you to enter with such little experience? That is our problem and WE created it..... management is simply taking advantage of our failure....