Will 737's be grounded?

[obadie]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/08/20/japan.plane/index.html

 

[Amish RakeFight]

The bigger issue is, should China Airlines be grounded?!! :erm:

This incident is the latest in a series of accidents involving China Airlines. Jetliners for the air carrier crashed in 2002, 1999, 1998 and 1994, killing more than 1,000 people.

 

[Wiggums]

The bigger issue is, should China Airlines be grounded?!! :erm:

Who has lost more hulls in the last decade, Fedex or China Airlines?

 

[GogglesPisano]

World used to commercial me around quite a bit on CAL (CAL in Asia = China Air Lines.) Nothing says "livin' the dream" like spending 11 hrs in the middle seat of a fully loaded 747-400 while suddenly realizing you're the only one not wearing a SARS mask. Three times in one month.

The FA's were exceptional, however.imp:

 

[Hutchman]

yikes

 

[Flash]

Chinese are probably saying "see, that's what we get when we buy these cheap goods from the U.S."

 

[Wesb737fo]

Probably more like " what you mean..four day past mx inspection....I don't care...you fly plane now..or you fired"

 

[CA1900]

"You been here four hour, you go NOW!"

 

[Dizel8]

"This incident is the latest in a series of accidents involving China Airlines. Jetliners for the air carrier crashed in 2002, 1999, 1998 and 1994, killing more than 1,000 people."

 

[Porch]

Who has lost more hulls in the last decade, Fedex or China Airlines?

FedEx has, by far! I don't understand how that can be so. They hire such superior aviators with such skill, they can land any aircraft on the head of a pin... They forgot to inform them that the pin is 3/4 down the runway.

 

[Capt. X]

This is probably why China had announced no new airline start-ups effective immediately. China's airline growth is skyrocketing. With such fast pase growth, we will probably see many more serious problems coming from that country.

 

[Little Bubba]

This is probably why China had announced no new airline start-ups effective immediately. China's airline growth is skyrocketing. With such fast pase growth, we will probably see many more serious problems coming from that country.

... what does China has to with China Airlines...

 

[FlyAirtran]

The crew was made up of 2 pilots and six flight attendants.

An even bigger question is why isnt my company flying me around with 6 flight attendants??!! :blush:

 

[polaris746]

... what does China has to with China Airlines...

China Airlines belongs to the China Aviation Development Foundation, which belongs to the Chinese government.

 

[firstthird]

China Airlines is the national airline of the Republic of China, i.e. Taiwan, not Red China. per wikipedia.

which is what Little Bubba was saying. confusing if you're not an old china hand, or so I've heard.

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

Pilots Jumping

Did anyone see the video of the two pilots jumping out the cockpit windows falling on to the ground as thee engien exploded. It did not look like they had an escape rope. This maybe an option on China arlines planes.

 

[Whataburger]

An even bigger question is why isnt my company flying me around with 6 flight attendants??!! :blush:

Because a Chinese FA is 1/2 the size of an American FA.

 

[TinGoose1]

Their F/A's are half the size and FEMALE. Question: Who wants six dudes in the back? Answer: Probably any one of the six dudes in the back. I'll take 3 female grandma's over that any day.

-TG

 

[Benhuntn]

Can You Say Counterfit Parts?

 

[Oh-ryan]

alright- who ordered the General Tso's Chicken?

 

[SkiFishFly]

Can You Say Counterfit Parts?

On the FAs or the airplane??

 

[scoreboard]

Lies! All Lies, you bad American!

 

[Snapshot]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nB49OBDuiOY



Damn!


Those guys look like they tried some Crouching Tiger sh*t out that window! I think I'd have gone for a Superman exit as I crapped myself.

 

[BigMeat]

Look at them run like cowards!

 

[MLBWINGBORN]

Im wondering why they went out the window at all.
Both the L1 and R1 doors appeared to be usable even after the tire failures.

Its amazing that all got out alive.

If that were to happen here say at LAX...They would still be standing in the isle trying to get their bag out of the overhead.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

That's a pretty wild video. I love the Japanese mumblings in the background after the explosion sounds.

Any details on how this fire started?

 

[CKJET]

If that were to happen here say at LAX...They would still be standing in the isle trying to get their bag out of the overhead.

So True!!!

 

[Hutchman]

Two things came out of the window. The second was either his brass balls or his flight bag. Notice that the other thing didn't move after it hit and he ran. I guess he was worried about being executed for missing Jepps. or company manuals.

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

get the facts straight

Can You Say Counterfit Parts?

That's just your ignorance talking without the benefit of your intellect. Gee, can you say counterfit brain? It's amazing how many experts we have on this forum.

FAA records: 4 similar incidents to China Air fire
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Boeing aircraft and its engine co-produced by a unit of General Electric were involved in a handful of fires on U.S. flights before today's China Airlines explosion.
Minutes after all 165 people aboard evacuated, the China Airlines plane burst into a fireball on the tarmac at the airport in Okinawa, Japan.
The 737-800 had CFM 56 engines, made by CFM International, a joint venture between GE Aviation and France's Snecma.
A preliminary search of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration's accident/incident database found four cases involving fires with similar Boeing planes or engines between July 1998 and July 2005.
3 of the incidents involved 737-800s. The other was on a 737-700, but with a similar engine.
FAA records indicate some of those incidents required emergency reroutes and evacuations.
Yet aviation analysts say the planes and engines are the safest in the world.
Richard Aboulafia, an aviation analyst at Teal Group, says the four FAA incidents dating back to 1998 are "statistically insignificant" considering the thousands of Boeing 737s and CFM 56 engines in use around the world.

 

[Palomino]

guess the Chinese don't let these things bother them too much.

...must've got a SMOKIN' deal on the things! sorry...i just had to.

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=9946

China Southern announces order for 55 737NGs

Tuesday August 21, 2007 China Southern Airlines yesterday announced that it entered into an agreement with Boeing for the purchase of 55 737-700s/-800s for delivery starting in May 2011 and extending to October 2013.
A Boeing spokesperson contacted by ATWOnline would not confirm the order but said the 55 aircraft were unrelated to the 80 737NGs ordered by China Aviation Supplies Import and Export Group 16 months ago (ATWOnline, April 12, 2006). The manufacturer did not update the orders list on its website.
CZ said the purchase "will facilitate the implementation of the company's plan to replace its old aircraft with new aircraft and enhance the competitiveness and core competence of the company."
The new planes, in addition to the 37 737-800s, 20 A320 family aircraft and six 777 freighters CZ said it has acquired in the past 12 months, will increase group ATKs by 32.8%. The company last month purchased 25 737-800s on behalf of Xiamen Airlines (ATWOnline, July 11), which came on top of two separate orders for six of the type in August and October 2006. Xiamen will take the 37 aforementioned 737s. CZ ordered the freighters last fall.
by Brian Straus