SkyWest Pilots: At least pretend to care

[Bluto]

If you are a SkyWest pilot, please vote for one of the two choices available to you for SAPA president. Our recent elections have been seriously embarrassing. If you can't muster the motivation to research the candidates, just flip a coin, consult the magic 8-ball, check your horoscope, or PM me and I'll tell you which is the lesser evil, whatever works for you, just please vote.

 

[wms]

In the end a vote for anyone is a vote for Jerry.

 

[Puck Mugger]

If you are a SkyWest pilot, please vote for one of the two choices available to you for SAPA president. Our recent elections have been seriously embarrassing. If you can't muster the motivation to research the candidates, just flip a coin, consult the magic 8-ball, check your horoscope, or PM me and I'll tell you which is the lesser evil, whatever works for you, just please vote.

Offer a free tip frost, a pair of Oakley blades, a tube of dippity-doo for the sperm coiffure for all those that show up to vote.

 

[www.]

If you are a SkyWest pilot, please vote for one of the two choices available to you for SAPA president. Our recent elections have been seriously embarrassing. If you can't muster the motivation to research the candidates, just flip a coin, consult the magic 8-ball, check your horoscope, or PM me and I'll tell you which is the lesser evil, whatever works for you, just please vote.

Didn't the court papers state that Skywest Airlines finances SAPA 100% or did I miss something?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Do we get a SAPA backpack? Gotta find someplace for my IPOD.

 

[Erlanger]

Didn't the court papers state that Skywest Airlines finances SAPA 100% or did I miss something?

The court said it needs to study the matter more. Right now, there is no injunction against Skywest or SAPA.

 

[Gobi Gred]

Bluto, Are you actually suggesting the SkyWest pilots show some unity and not be apathetic? Now that's funny. However I will be sure and vote in the upcoming election. On a side note any predictions on how the ALPA vote will go?

 

[Eric]

How about you just tell me who the lesser of two evils is, and I'll vote for that guy seeing as it doesn't really matter much.

 

[Skyjet]

I agree we as pilots need to show some unity and vote. At least sapa can do a vote, ALPA has no guts to have one at Skywest. Until ALPA gets some balls it is all we have.

 

[HelloNewman]

Bluto, Are you actually suggesting the SkyWest pilots show some unity and not be apathetic? Now that's funny. However I will be sure and vote in the upcoming election. On a side note any predictions on how the ALPA vote will go?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Some one is either going to care or they are not going to care.

An apathetic pilot group is actually a much happier one over all. You see they are concerned with far more important things such as family, friends instead of letting their job/complaining all the time consume their life.

One of the things I miss about being at skywest was the apathetic/laid back nature of most of the guys I worked with. It was a good bunch. If someone doesn't care then it is their right not to care. Working with a bunch of guys that get fired up too easily can be annoying to say the least. The extra money is worth it though. I am good at tuning out whiners.

 

[BoilerUP]

One of the things I miss about being at skywest was the apathetic/laid back nature of most of the guys I worked with. It was a good bunch. If someone doesn't care then it is their right not to care. Working with a bunch of guys that get fired up too easily can be annoying to say the least. The extra money is worth it though. I am good at tuning out whiners.

So where did you get hired again?

 

[WalterSobchak]

One of the things I miss about being at skywest...

Wait a tick...Newman isn't at SKW anymore?

When is the SkyWest "He's Finally Gone!" party? And can I be invited?

 

[HelloNewman]

So where did you get hired again?

I will reveal details much later IE after I have been where I am for at least a year. The only hint I will provide is that I no longer reside in chicago and am off IOE. I was smart and I moved for my job. I refuse to be one of those whiney commuters.

I do promise to return and throw a goodbye ALPA BBQ if they ever have the balls to hold a vote. I am greatful for my time at SkyWest

 

[FlyinScotsman]

So you guys are doing the union masturbation again!

It doesn't matter who you vote for or how you vote.

The company can do whatever they want.

Catch a Clue.

 

[Ben Dover]

Bluto, Are you actually suggesting the SkyWest pilots show some unity and not be apathetic? Now that's funny. However I will be sure and vote in the upcoming election. On a side note any predictions on how the ALPA vote will go?

I'm afraid it doesn't really matter how the ALPA vote turns out. ALPA only seems to work well with pilot groups that are unified, and we all know Skywest is not unified.

 

[No.W.]

Mr. Nolin was not a vote for Jerry. Of course, He is out of the picture now...and on to greener pastures.

 

[Mookie]

I will reveal details much later IE after I have been where I am for at least a year. The only hint I will provide is that I no longer reside in chicago and am off IOE. I was smart and I moved for my job. I refuse to be one of those whiney commuters.

I do promise to return and throw a goodbye ALPA BBQ if they ever have the balls to hold a vote. I am greatful for my time at SkyWest

you seriously need to sack up and answer the question if you are going to bust so many ballz...

 

[HelloNewman]

Busting balls? please all I am saying is apathy is not a crime. People either care or they don't. A lot of those who do not care will simply pretend they do to get the people off their backs. Perhaps participation is so low because pilots actually have lives outside of work. What a concept!!! I am simply telling it like it is. There are those who care , those who don't, and those who pretend to but don't. There is absolutely nothing you can do about this.

 

[FightingIrish]

Heck, even here at ASA, more than half the pilots didn't vote in our last elections, and we have been in negotiations for 5 years. Most people just don't care.

 

[Gnarloooo]

Busting balls? please all I am saying is apathy is not a crime. People either care or they don't. A lot of those who do not care will simply pretend they do to get the people off their backs. Perhaps participation is so low because pilots actually have lives outside of work. What a concept!!! I am simply telling it like it is. There are those who care , those who don't, and those who pretend to but don't. There is absolutely nothing you can do about this.

I will bet $1000 that HelloMoron is still here but is afraid of getting the beatdown so he is trying to tell everyone as often as he can that he really doesn't work here anymore. Either that or he is really BH.

 

[Skaff]

I won't vote. Last vote I voted MN, not BS and not JB. MN was ousted. I'm not so much pro ALPA as I am anti-Sapa right now.

 

[fastback]

On a side note any predictions on how the ALPA vote will go?

If JB wins the election I think ALPA could pass.

 

[SBD-2U3]

Why pretend to Care? If they don't care...THEY DON'T CARE. Begging for votes on FI is kind of funny though.:laugh:

 

[www.]

The court said it needs to study the matter more. Right now, there is no injunction against Skywest or SAPA.

But didn't the transcripts state that Skywest finances SAPA 100%?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I will bet $1000 that HelloMoron is still here but is afraid of getting the beatdown so he is trying to tell everyone as often as he can that he really doesn't work here anymore. Either that or he is really BH.

That's my take as well. He's just trying to throw people off of his trail. My guess is, he's still at SKW.

 

[zawillif]

Why should SKYW pilots care? They haven't cared for years and look at where its got them: nice pretty CRJ-900s and a 1 year upgrade. . . that's all I care about!!!

 

[Bluto]

But didn't the transcripts state that Skywest finances SAPA 100%?

There's no debate as to who finances SAPA. The company doesn't try to hide the fact that they finance it 100%. The Company's position is that somehow, them financing it 100% isn't a conflict of interest, that's the real mind-blower.

As far as who to vote for, my perspective is that a vote for JB is a vote for status quo. I, too, voted for MN and think he could have done some substantial things for this pilot group had he not been effectively hamstrung by JB, ME, etc. As for MN, at least he's in a better place now.

If you don't support SAPA, abstaining from the vote is a message, but not a very clear one. I think SGU sees a 40% voter turnout as an indication that the pilots are happy and don't care what happens, knowing that their future is secure in the hands of their gracious, SGU overlords.

On the other hand, a 100% voter turnout with 99.9% voting for BS, is a clear message that this group is rejecting our current leadership. Isn't that a valuable message to convey?

Is BS a new beginning for SAPA? I don't think so. I've talked to him and consider him to be generally honest, but like most SAPA reps and board members, I think he's probably convinced that we are being treated about as well as we can expect. I disagree, but I think his attitudes are less dangerous than the alternative.

If you want to see real changes, contact an ALPA Organizing Committee member, volunteer and be a part of the solution.

For the SkyWest haters out there, it is kind of sad that we have to resort to unofficial means of communication, but the company is in charge here and communicating with us is not always their top priority.

As for the ALPA vote, the drive is progressing and far from stagnant.

 

[SkyNation]

On the other hand, a 100% voter turnout with 99.9% voting for BS, is a clear message that this group is rejecting our current leadership. Isn't that a valuable message to convey?

Is BS a new beginning for SAPA? I don't think so. I've talked to him and consider him to be generally honest, but like most SAPA reps and board members, I think he's probably convinced that we are being treated about as well as we can expect.

Bluto,

I totally agree with you on these points, and would agree with BS that we are being treated about as well as we can expect.

as for the ALPA drive, what would you say is the biggest challenge that the OC faces? It can't be that they haven't communicated their message clearly enough or to enough people. What would you say it is?

 

[MYFpilot]

Bluto,
as for the ALPA drive, what would you say is the biggest challenge that the OC faces? It can't be that they haven't communicated their message clearly enough or to enough people. What would you say it is?

Convincing the 1st and 2nd year guys to take an interest in their careers and their profession.

 

[Bluto]

Convincing the 1st and 2nd year guys to take an interest in their careers and their profession.

and 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th year guys, too.
The primary obstacle with the ALPA drive at SkyWest, as I see it, is simply that things are changing so slowly and insidiously, that it's hard to keep track of how they used to be. There is no system in place to keep track of the company's past behavior to track the continual hits to our overall pay and QOL.

It's the boiling frog analogy. We have endured a steady decrease in effective pay and benefits while the company has made steady improvements in its industry position. I can only be happy for SkyWest's successes for so long while playing an active contributing role and seeing decreasing rewards in return.

Having said that, I think recent events with the "leadership" of SAPA have opened the eyes of many SkyWest pilots as to who SAPA really works for. I think the ALPA drive has as good a chance as ever of succeeding. ALPA representation is by no means assured, but many of our pilots are working very hard to volunteer their time to the effort. If SAPA had the same level of interest and participation, I don't think we'd be having a union drive at all.

How can a company that paints such a rosy picture to its investors argue that Brasilia pilots are worth less today than they were 7 years ago? How can a company that made substantial gains through the unopposed implementation of PBS not give anything back to the pilot group who suffers as a result of that implementation?

SkyNation,
I'm sorry you feel that way, you have a right to your opinion, though I think you will find that you are in the minority when it comes to SkyWest pilots. As one of the most profitable regional airlines we remain near the bottom compensation-wise for our 70 and 90 seat aircraft. How can you justify that?