Kalitta New Hire

[BUFF Flyer]

I'm starting training with Connie in August. From the Kalitta folks, what can I expect from the training? I have a schedule for the first five weeks of ground school, but nothing for the sim.

I'm excited about flying the whale worldwide. Should be a blast - from one of the biggest AF planes to the biggest commercial--what could be better!

 

[Birddog]

You will get a sim schedule during ground school, once they match you up with some other guys. It will be about 15 days or so of sim. Expect to be busy. They will throw things at you at a pretty rapid pace, and if you don't understand something, you will need to speak up pretty quick. It is doable, however.

Good luck.

 

[Draginass]

I'm excited about flying the whale worldwide. Should be a blast - from one of the biggest AF planes to the biggest commercial--what could be better!

Ah, yea right. You'll find out soon enough what the real story is working for a scumbag 747 freight outfit.

 

[LR25]

Ah, yea right. You'll find out soon enough what the real story is working for a scumbag 747 freight outfit.

Real story, I been here for a few years, I want to know!

Give us a hint, is it a funny one, a scarry one, is it a love story?

 

[hkgorbust]

Real story, I been here for a few years, I want to know!

Give us a hint, is it a funny one, a scarry one, is it a love story?

For some, it's a love story, for some it can be a scary story. Sometimes it's a funny story. But for many, it's an ongoing mystery that they can't seem to figure out. Then they get all grumpy and it becomes a sad story. Then they really get mad and it becomes a horror story!

Buff: As far as what could be better; maybe getting a respectable job, like as a piano player in a house of ill-repute.

Welcome aboard.

 

[BUFF Flyer]

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What does OE consist of?

If I'm starting training on Aug 6, how soon til I'm out in the system flying?

 

[PHXFLYR]

My...such youthful enthusiasm... I'm impressed!

PHXFLYR

 

[Junkflyer]

Your sim and oe could come quickly or take awhile. Training is busy right now-newhire, upgrade, and recurrent all going on. the sim is running 20 hours a day right now so it may take awhile to getthrough your class. I would guess about 3 or 4 months til you're on line.

 

[Guam360]

we started June 4, some have gone through all the way, one friend did his LOFT today and starts IOE Saturday. he is in the second round of sims, our sim starts Aug 1, three crews. first two sets of crews started a week out of ground and are on IOE now.

 

[BUFF Flyer]

Thanks Junk.

Are you paid training pay the entire time, or only when you're at YIP?

 

[BUFF Flyer]

Guam
Obviously new to this civilian lingo (I could wow you with some military jargon). What is LOFT?

 

[Floyd R. Turbo]

BUFF,

You get paid training pay (600/wk under the new contract) until you finish OE, even if they leave you sitting at home.

LOFT is Line Oriented Flight Training. It's the sim after your checkride. Not so much an EP sim like the checkride, but more of a normal flight with a few "irregularities" thrown in...

 

[Birddog]

What does OE consist of? If I'm starting training on Aug 6, how soon til I'm out in the system flying?

OE is basically line flying under supervision. It is short for IOE or Initial Operating Experience. You spend anywhere from 25 to about 75 hours or so flying with a check airman or designated OE captain. They are basically there to make sure you successfully make the transition from the training environment to the line environment. They usually do a little OJT and get you oriented to the day to day operations.

You could be out on OE in as little as two months from when you start, depending on your seniority and sim schedule. If you are relatively junior, it could be 3 months or more.

 

[BUFF Flyer]

Turbo
So this is what training timeline boils down to:

5 weeks ground school
some amount of time waiting for sim
3 week of sim training
check in sim (qualified/rated in 747)
LOFT sim
1 month or so of OE training

fully qual out of training - getting MBPG

Is this right?

 

[NEWSOUTH]

Rated?

I did not think they typed you in the aircraft as a First Officer. Do they?

 

[Junkflyer]

No type for fo's, oe should be about 2 weeks depending on how much time you spend sitting between flights and actually flying. The weekly training pay continues until the line check at the end of oe. If you sit at home for a few months you'll still get paid.

 

[Guam360]

there you go, have fun.....

 

[BUFF Flyer]

Guam
Where did you stay during initial trng? I'll be at Extended Stay America. Any idea how it is there?

 

[#%&@$!]

Junkflyer - are you saying no flight pay in OE?

Buff - see ya in class!

 

[Showtime]

Guam
Where did you stay during initial trng? I'll be at Extended Stay America. Any idea how it is there?

I did the same thing and left in a week due to all the fights, yelling, drunks and police activity (wait, that is just a normal trip at K4). If you are on the first floor check your windows, they are often turned around so they can be opened from the outside.

I moved to the Red Roof, cheaper, closer, mostly flight crews and a couple truckers. Walmart, grocery and adult beverages across the street. Stay a month and there is no tax.

Welcome aboard, and hold on tight 'cause you are in for a hell of a ride

-Showtime