My Regional Airline Dream Is Gone Atp Pays Mucho!!

[dueguard1]

All ATPS Here I come.....sorry guys I'm running back to the instructing world!...Flame up all ya want!

 

[AWACO]

looks to me like it pays in the 30-38K range. What is so great about that? I would have a hard time living on that forever.

 

[Papps]

regional pay sucks as first or second year F/O. But its not bad as a captain and upgrades are fast right now.

 

[Edge540]

All ATPS Here I come.....sorry guys I'm running back to the instructing world!...Flame up all ya want!

We are all very proud of you. We all wish we had the amazing decision making abilities that you are blessed with. ATP has an amazing career potential full of challenge, excitement, and extremely high pay. Not to mention the excellent people you will be working with.

IE. Shut the f*ck up. Only an idiot would brag about a backwards career move.

 

[siucavflight]

All ATPS Here I come.....sorry guys I'm running back to the instructing world!...Flame up all ya want!

You dont have to apologize to us. One less person to compete with for a real job. Have fun doing steep turns.

 

[dueguard1]

We are all very proud of you. We all wish we had the amazing decision making abilities that you are blessed with. ATP has an amazing career potential full of challenge, excitement, and extremely high pay. Not to mention the excellent people you will be working with.

IE. Shut the f*ck up. Only an idiot would brag about a backwards career move.

WOAHHHH WEEKEND TOUGH GUY!! SLOW YOUR HORSES..I ALREADY FLY FOR A REGIONAL....JUST KIDDING, I GUESS I DID'NT KNOW REGIONAL PILOTS WOULD GET SO WORKED UP WHEN COMES TO THE JOB.......VIA CON DIOS

 

[regionalcap]

What is your reason for going back into instructing? The pay is barely more than a first year regional and you are giving up jet time. Most people do their time instructing and want to move on. You are going to get some crazy looks from your students when you tell them your career moves. I am not bashing you..each is own..I have never heard of someone doing this and am just curious.

 

[siucavflight]

WOAHHHH WEEKEND TOUGH GUY!! SLOW YOUR HORSES..I ALREADY FLY FOR A REGIONAL....JUST KIDDING, I GUESS I DID'NT KNOW REGIONAL PILOTS WOULD GET SO WORKED UP WHEN COMES TO THE JOB.......VIA CON DIOS

So do you not fly for a regional? If not then I fail to understand this thread.

 

[Edge540]

WOAHHHH WEEKEND TOUGH GUY!! SLOW YOUR HORSES..I ALREADY FLY FOR A REGIONAL....JUST KIDDING, I GUESS I DID'NT KNOW REGIONAL PILOTS WOULD GET SO WORKED UP WHEN COMES TO THE JOB.......VIA CON DIOS

After typing a big long post explaining why what you are doing is a bad move, I decided to say screw it. If you can not realize how ridiculous what you are doing is, than you deserve whatever lies ahead.

Every interviewing staff will look at your work history and think that you could not make it in the 121 environment. If you couldn't make it then, why should you be able to make it in the future?

or...

If you decided to take the easy road at this point in time, why should we (any company) gamble and expect him to stay with our company?

 

[belchfire]

I hope you enjoy it.

You're going to be able to leave that suitcase gathering dust in the attic, have weekends off instead of in a scuzzy hotel in Buttfrack, ND, no commuting, no TSA, no 8 hr ON's...to say nothing of the fact that there aren't any where as many "major" pilot jobs as there should be because those routes are being flown with piddling RJ's, retirements have been gutted, pass priviledges are for crap because of the load factors...in fact in ten years the only "mainline" flying will probably be international in 787's and that's liable to be outsourced to Air China!

Regional pay isn't going to go where 73 pay is now, you can forget that!

Plus you can go to night school so you can get a real job. Maybe in management...that's where the golden parachutes are! A few $15 M settlements and you can buy your own island somewhere and settle down to a nice life of fishing and drinking heavily!

There are some tradeoffs, though.

Good luck anyhow!

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

When you go back, please teach the 300 hour wonders how to talk on the radio and land on centerline. Thanks.

 

[flyer172r]

To each his own. If doing this makes you happier, then by all means go for it. There are people who actually *gasp* enjoy instructing and can make a decent career out of it. Hard to believe, I know.

 

[finnjl]

what a dork

 

[Papps]

in fact in ten years the only "mainline" flying will probably be international in 787's and that's liable to be outsourced to Air China!

Yeah that will be great, we will have to use other countries airlines to do our domestic flying. Cant wait to jump on a Chinese airliner to get to Florida for vacation.

We have pilots with experience. We have pilots that will work for nothing. But we are running out of pilots with experience that will work for nothing.

 

[sperfly]

When you go back, please teach the 300 hour wonders how to talk on the radio and land on centerline. Thanks.

So I guess you went from 0 hours to 4500 hours and skipped all the hours in between good for you. Sorry that we ar not as perfect as you.

 

[pgcfii2002]

If that is what you want, then go for it.

Not everybody wants to fly for the airlines.

Do what makes you happy.

 

[sqwkvfr]

You can do better.

My MEI job pays $50K base with an additional $7k/yr bonus based on the number of hours I fly with life/medical/dental/vision/401k.

I would have to work for most regionals for 5 years before I was able to replace this pay and these benefits and it would most likely involve a move to a ********************hole city somewhere far away from the half of the country that I prefer.

I don't have to sign off anyone for checkrides, control my schedule, decide when a flight gets cancelled with no pressure from management and I'm home every day by 2PM at the latest.

I gotta tell ya, with the amount of constant bitching you guys do about the regionals, the current state of the airline industry, and the brat attitudes of some of the regional pilots on these boards, my motivation for jumping ship is practically non-existant.

Now, I realize that this guy was just trying to wind some of you up (and some of the responses were highly predictable, BTW) but I'm surprised that the responses were so overwhelmingly negative regarding someone who might go back to instructing.

We've got 3 instructors here who did just that with no plans to return to the 121 world.

 

[belchfire]

Yeah that will be great, we will have to use other countries airlines to do our domestic flying. Cant wait to jump on a Chinese airliner to get to Florida for vacation.

We have pilots with experience. We have pilots that will work for nothing. But we are running out of pilots with experience that will work for nothing.

Too bad that they aren't in the minority quite yet...

 

[Goose Egg]

Am I the only one who didn't take this thread seriously? Nobody is going back to instructing. I'm just a few steep turns shy of losin' it. The day is hopefully soon when I don't have to watch someone every minute and tell them everything they are doing wrong. $2000/month sounds pretty good from where I'm sitting, but it still ain't that great.

-Goose

 

[Metro752]

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[30West]

It always amazes me how everyone knows what is best for everyone else.
What might be a "backwards" move for one might not necessarily be for someone else.

I recently left a job flying a DC-10 all over the world for my old job as a sim check airman for my previous TP airline. Slightly better QOL, similar schedule and more than twice the money on average.

Anybody got a problem with that? Because last time I checked, it was up to me to decide what was best for me.

Once upon a time, about 10 years ago, regionals used to be a big step in pay and QOL from instructing. If I still had my old instructing job today and was faced with going to the regionals , I would probably try for a local corporate gig instead. But that's just me.

 

[pipejockey]

One less person to compete with for a real job. Have fun doing steep turns.

Flying Barbie jets around the sky for 20 to 35 grand aint no real job in my book.

 

[Goose Egg]

Am I the only one who didn't take this thread seriously? Nobody is going back to instructing. I'm just a few steep turns shy of losin' it. The day is hopefully soon when I don't have to watch someone every minute and tell them everything they are doing wrong. $2000/month sounds pretty good from where I'm sitting, but it still ain't that great.

Check that. Instructing has its rewarding moments too. Had one today...

Not that I would be willing to do it for $24k now until forever, but it can sometimes be worth all the effort...

-Goose

 

[siucavflight]

Flying Barbie jets around the sky for 20 to 35 grand aint no real job in my book.

By real job I was thinking corporate or majors, what is a Barbie jet? Looking at your profile the planes you are flying are half the size of what I am flying.

 

[Mr Wu]

what is a Barbie jet? Looking at your profile the planes you are flying are half the size of what I am flying.

A barbie jet is a WSCOD. A 727 is bigger than one of them.

 

[siucavflight]

A barbie jet is a WSCOD. A 727 is bigger than one of them.

I know what it is, I was just giving him crap. I love it when someone who has been in the industry and goten to the place that they want to be tries to belittle me trying to get to that same place by telling me things like I am not a real pilot, what I am flying is not a real airplane, and my job is not a real job. Everyone has to start somewhere.

 

[doug_or]

Am I the only one who didn't take this thread seriously? Nobody is going back to instructing.

I instructed with a guy who had been @ a respectable (ie not mesa) regional for over 5 years. He didn't want to live in their domeciles, he didn't like what managment was doing, and he didn't like the sched. He took an instructing job with great bennies, decent pay, and is home every night. More power to him.

 

[theskyking]

Plenty of other ways to make money and a living flying than 121. Go instruct, become a designated examiner, get on with one of the sim companies, fly corporate or fractional. Whatever it is, find a way to be happy while you do it.

Those of you guys that are so quick to ridicule, take a step back. Until you have walked a mile in his shoes, you need to withhold judgment.

Good luck with your decision. Hope you are happier than some of the others on this thread seem to be.

 

[sqwkvfr]

I love it when someone who has been in the industry and goten to the place that they want to be tries to belittle me trying to get to that same place by telling me things like I am not a real pilot, what I am flying is not a real airplane, and my job is not a real job.

Sorta like the jerk that made this little statement?:

One less person to compete with for a real job. Have fun doing steep turns.

 

[Goose Egg]

I instructed with a guy who had been @ a respectable (ie not mesa) regional for over 5 years. He didn't want to live in their domeciles, he didn't like what managment was doing, and he didn't like the sched. He took an instructing job with great bennies, decent pay, and is home every night. More power to him.

Good call... I think it was more about the mood I was in that day. For the record, my so-called "dream job" isn't flying large aircraft and/or 121, so I should be more understanding of that. It's just that right now, being a little burned out on instructing, It's hard for me to imagine someone wanting to go back to it. But if it works for that person, by all means...

-Goose