NWA Hiring scoop???

[NuGuy]

Looking to the future is why I even started the thread. CAL and NWA lists are comparable with seniority movement in the next 10 years. Even with age 65, NWA will be losing many of its pilots in the next 10-15 years. You may even be able to upgrade in 5-10 at NWA, of course it all depends on where future jet orders are placed.

For those in the know...please keep us wannabe's in the loop. I look forward to moving north again.

Does anyone have any idea of when the snapbacks start to occur, and how much.

Heyas EV,

One thing to factor in is that NWA is looking to get down to a 4000 pilot airline (down from 6500 pre-9/11). That means they're going to park the DC-9s and most, if not all, of the A319s. If you follow the news, they've already started this trend.

There will be no replacements for those aircraft The smallest thing at the airline will be the A320.

Add that in with age 65, lower (much) than expected early retirements and you will be junior/reserve or at Compass for a long, long time.

As I said, if you're local and/or looking for a nice stepping stone, I'd say go for it. But there are plenty of better opportunities out there.

Nu

PS What snapbacks?

 

[JAM-BRO]

hey cliff. If you're doing the usajet thing, then nwa is probably better. If you do get hired, though, I wouldn't stop applying EVERYWHERE else (except maybe UAL) for a while.

Probably better?????????? YGTBFKM!!!!

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[JAM-BRO]

I fly for a rather large 737 operator based down south. My animosity towards the NW group is based on the experiences from when I was with JetBlue. The snotty attitudes, and petty jumpseat wars perpetuated by the Northwest crews was absolutely disgusting. The fact that I proudly wore my ALPA Battlestar and was on the union organizing committee while at JetBlue didn't count for anything. All you NW putzes ever cared to see was a blue shirt, and you were all so scared, that you behaved like 5 year-olds, taking your ball and going home. I'm sure there are some great guys and gals at Northwest. It was just that whenever I ran into them at airports, hotel vans, etc., I never saw it.

Bob.. I have never seen a CA at NWA deny a JS to anyone... It is hard to believe your story. Personally, I have had many JB guys in the JS. They have always been welcomed and treated well.
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[JAM-BRO]

I fly for a rather large 737 operator based down south. My animosity towards the NW group is based on the experiences from when I was with JetBlue. The snotty attitudes, and petty jumpseat wars perpetuated by the Northwest crews was absolutely disgusting. The fact that I proudly wore my ALPA Battlestar and was on the union organizing committee while at JetBlue didn't count for anything. All you NW putzes ever cared to see was a blue shirt, and you were all so scared, that you behaved like 5 year-olds, taking your ball and going home. I'm sure there are some great guys and gals at Northwest. It was just that whenever I ran into them at airports, hotel vans, etc., I never saw it.

I read your post again and now I can see why you got left at the gate. Your big mouth and the smell of kok in your breath!!!!!!!​

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[JAM-BRO]

Confirm what Diesel said.

Be that as it may, be advised that you could very possibly wind up at Compass, and that the current work envrionment is toxic.

Senior and junor are at each others throats. Junior guys are trying to get some changes made to make life even minimally tolerable, and the senior guys are in %100 company man mode to the point where they are calling into OPS to have the ACARS times revised because there were no jetway operators (IE taking money out of THEIR own paycheck).

Unless you can drive to work in MEM, DTW or MSP, I would plan on using it as a stepping stone only.

Nu

Nu

I don't know what you are talking about... CAs calling to get times corrected!!!! That I have never seen. Don't spread BS rumors. We don't need that.
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[atpcliff]

Hi!

My buddy at NWA said that they're either buying the "C" aircraft from Bomardier or the Boeing 100 seat product which will be out in either 2010 or 2012 (he couldn't remember which).

NuGuy, if you're at NWA, something weird is going on, because the info you're getting is opposite of what has been told to me buddy.

Anyone else with info on the DC-9 replacement?

cliff
YIP

 

[Clacker]

Heyas EV,

One thing to factor in is that NWA is looking to get down to a 4000 pilot airline (down from 6500 pre-9/11). That means they're going to park the DC-9s and most, if not all, of the A319s. If you follow the news, they've already started this trend.

There will be no replacements for those aircraft The smallest thing at the airline will be the A320.

Add that in with age 65, lower (much) than expected early retirements and you will be junior/reserve or at Compass for a long, long time.

As I said, if you're local and/or looking for a nice stepping stone, I'd say go for it. But there are plenty of better opportunities out there.

Nu

PS What snapbacks?

I agree with NuGuy on this one. I'm a '99 hire sitting it out flying freight, and wondering if I'll ever go back. The current contract goes through 2010 and I fully expect management to drag their collective feet for several years after that before a new contract is signed. It's not too bad if you live in Mecca (MSP) or DTW, but for a commuter it's pretty lousy now. The airline is shrinking, and I don't expect any real upward movement for some time. As Consumer Reports likes to put it: "There are better choices..."

 

[PCL_128]

or the Boeing 100 seat product which will be out in either 2010 or 2012 (he couldn't remember which).

You sure about that date? I doubt that the Boeing product will be ready that soon. Even the 737 replacement isn't going to be ready until the '14-'15 time frame.

 

[Going2Baja]

Did you forget the free $$$ we all got once they came out of BK? I was 2 yr and got $72k less taxes. I'd say ALPA did us a solid.

Baja.

Baja,

Did not forget it at all. It was very nice and totally unexpected. Mine was not as large as yours and shrunk from the original announcement. The only reason that we got that money is because they gave it to the retired guys. They couldn't figure out a way to give it to them and not give it to the furloughed guys who weren't back at the company yet. I've been talking with my rep constantly and I can tell you that for the most part they just wish that the furloughed/junior guys would go away. They are not giving any priority or willing to use any negotiating capital to obtain provisions (longevity credit) that are important to us. I could break even if I was at third year pay, but unfortunately, I did not complete my first year (fell short by three weeks) and did not get the credits that you did. Hope things are going well for you.

Backer

Please explain this one.....What benefit would us furloughed guys going away be to NWA? Is it the fact they would be paying essentially new-hires third and fourth pay (and they'd still be pissed off at the four year vacation?)

Baja.

 

[xjhawk]

Why are you making plans for two airplanes which are still on the drawing board. NWA might have a plan, but I do not think its set in stone. I do not think some line pilot who heard from some guy who knows somebody in management. The loss of the airbus 319's and the scheduled retirement of the nine's will mean a even higher load factor and a higher cancelation rate. Good luck commuting on NWA in the future. Seems to me NWA is looking at being lean in the future, but it also seems to me they are trying to be too lean and having to cancel flights.