No longer a rumor - United will hire..

[Going2Baja]

I sure hope they will put an end to the way they interviewed in the past. Perfect logbooks, lunar orbits, and games of stump the dummy should be over. When any carrier turns down Blue Angels or Shuttle Pilots it makes you wonder how they can hire quota pilots and feel good about themselves.

Baja.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I sure hope they will put an end to the way they interviewed in the past. Perfect logbooks, lunar orbits, and games of stump the dummy should be over. When any carrier turns down Blue Angels or Shuttle Pilots it makes you wonder how they can hire quota pilots and feel good about themselves.

Baja.

Yes, I hope they change the way they hire too.

Years back, when they had the written application, I heard (even though the application said PRINT or TYPE) that if you printed it, you wouldn't get a call. Well then put TYPE on there! I hate mind games like that.

Also, this year, when I was at Women in Aviation, I stopped by the UAL booth in my uniform just to ask (out of curiosity) if they were going to hire anytime soon. The HR lady says "yes, are you going to apply?" I had to hold back the laughter but I was polite believe it or not. The female captain working their booth looked like she was holding back a chuckle as well.

 

[AlbieF15]

I don't think folks will put up with the crap of United circa 1999. Its a different airline now. Most folks would rather work at UPS, FDX, SWA, or even CAL or DAL. UAL will be competing for the best of the crop now, instead of getting them automatically. I think its a different game...

 

[Lear70]

Guppy, excellent post, except you left out one crucial detail that will keep the highly-experienced pilots away:

Profitability and a working business plan. United doesn't have either, and they work together to ensure long-term viability.

As far as I know, they're the only post-bankruptcy Legacy that has consistently posted losses since they exited. Given the HUGE concessions given by the work group, the restructured leases, and paring back their operation to just the basics, you'd *think* they'd be making money...

If they can't make money in this environment with all those concessions, what person in their right mind would consider going there as a "long-term career move"?

Something's just not right over there, and there doesn't seem to be a plan to turn it around except "merger mania"... Even Dougie isn't interested, and that's a BIG sign.

 

[Lear70]

Also, this year, when I was at Women in Aviation, I stopped by the UAL booth in my uniform just to ask (out of curiosity) if they were going to hire anytime soon. The HR lady says "yes, are you going to apply?" I had to hold back the laughter but I was polite believe it or not. The female captain working their booth looked like she was holding back a chuckle as well.

*snicker*

Did you defer politely and change the subject, or did you explain it to them?

 

[AutoBus]

...later this year:

http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,51564,00.html

"United is preparing to commence pilot hiring later this year. If you are interested in becoming a United pilot, please continue to check this page for more information."

NICE!!

Oh, let me run out and buy a new #2 pencil for the scan-tron, NOT!!

 

[Devil Dawg]

yes folks i will be involved in the process again. you can pm me for a private 'flight info' practice game of stump the dummy. good luck to all. scantrons for all my friends and lets up the app fee to 500. to offset those fuel costs.

nancy

 

[52560]

According to Reuters, United announced this morning that they will hire 100 pilots before year end.

 

[W8N4UAL]

As far as I know, they're the only post-bankruptcy Legacy that has consistently posted losses since they exited. Given the HUGE concessions given by the work group, the restructured leases, and paring back their operation to just the basics, you'd *think* they'd be making money...

I should know more of the details than I do, but I believe if you factor in the debt paydown we made quite a lot of money. Much can be debated regarding the goal of strengthening the balance sheet, but I don't think the argument can still be maintained that UAL is losing money. I'm sure someone will be motivated to show some numbers that probably prove me wrong.

I took the paycut and left a regional to come back to UAL. I'm in the midst of the worst of it (brutal pay cut, reserve on the LCO, etc) but I'm still very happy I came back. Only time will tell if I made a foolish decision. Here's hoping that Age 65 takes long enough for plenty of new hires to make it on the property. (c:

W8N

 

[BoilerUP]

Hey W8N you still out east or back at ORD?

 

[Lear70]

I should know more of the details than I do, but I believe if you factor in the debt paydown we made quite a lot of money. Much can be debated regarding the goal of strengthening the balance sheet, but I don't think the argument can still be maintained that UAL is losing money. I'm sure someone will be motivated to show some numbers that probably prove me wrong.

I took the paycut and left a regional to come back to UAL. I'm in the midst of the worst of it (brutal pay cut, reserve on the LCO, etc) but I'm still very happy I came back. Only time will tell if I made a foolish decision. Here's hoping that Age 65 takes long enough for plenty of new hires to make it on the property. (c:

W8N

Hey, I certainly hope that's the case with all the negative numbers and I'd be tickled pink if they started making money and would survive long-term.

I still remember United as saving my BUTT back in the 80's when I was a 15 year old snowskiing in Aspen and broke my ankle BADLY (sheared the end completely off and it had to have a bunch of screws and plates). My dad worked for UAir and HIS OWN AIRLINE wouldn't let me on to get to the Mayo Clinic in JAX without a suit and tie... I'm in a wheelchair in agony. United's counter wrote the ID-90 remotely without him being there and without UAir ticket stock on a non-stop to JAX and on the flight there was a F/A selling these cool airbrushed ties with a UAL 747 on them - she gave me one 'cause I was obviously so miserable. I still have the tie.

There are some VERY cool employees there, and I have always thought United would be around long-haul. Here's hoping you guys make it!

 

[SizzleChest]

Nancy Stuke!!!

 

[W8N4UAL]

ORD starting July 1st.

I guess I should change my handle...then again, I'm sure I'll always be w8n4ual to do something or other (merge, pay me more than Chautauqua, furlough me again, really the possibilities are endless...)

W8N

 

[optimater]

I should know more of the details than I do, but I believe if you factor in the debt paydown we made quite a lot of money. Much can be debated regarding the goal of strengthening the balance sheet,

It appears UAL is on baby step #2. Do they have the $1,000 cash?

 

[Mason]

It appears UAL is on baby step #2. Do they have the $1,000 cash?

Beans and rice, rice and beans.

 

[ATRCA]

I'll take the bait. I will apply. I'm coming from XJT, am very senior, will make 80K or more this year and I will STILL leave for a legacy carier. Thats the way it works. I did not start this career to fly the 145 for 30 yrs. Call me a dumba$$ but.............

 

[instructordude]

According to Reuters, United announced this morning that they will hire 100 pilots before year end.

Great news guys. Time to get that resume polished up, shoes shined, logbook perfect and put on the game face! This is the big time and you may only get one shot at a place like UAL. Games on!!

 

[vetrider]

I'll take the bait. I will apply. I'm coming from XJT, am very senior, will make 80K or more this year and I will STILL leave for a legacy carier. Thats the way it works. I did not start this career to fly the 145 for 30 yrs. Call me a dumba$$ but.............

I think you've got it right.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

As a pilot group in general we have come to accept the fact that you have to make less than an ilegal alien for a few years to start on a company and I think that this is a wrong way of looking at things. More seats, more money. What a concept!

 

[terryhfly]

I talked to a HR person today and found out that those of us that were good enough for UAL in 2000 are not going to be good enough in 2007. No special pile, nothing as far as she knew. She was going to ask around and try to find out for sure. You would think we could at least get moved into different app pile! I am not supprised.