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atpcliff

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Hi!

I was over 1/2 way through a big post with a lot of info when my computer froze, and I lost it all. I'll post it later.

In the meantime, I would appreciate U Guys posting what U know:
Foreign airlines hiring, websites for contract pilots who fill positions overseas, specific conditions in specific countries/cities/airlines that you know about.

Here's one I found out. Viva Macau is hiring. Macau was a Portuguese controlled island off of China, similar to Hong Kong. A guy there has put $300K in the bank in two years of working there.

C U!
cliff
GRB
 
Hi!

I was over 1/2 way through a big post with a lot of info when my computer froze, and I lost it all. I'll post it later.

In the meantime, I would appreciate U Guys posting what U know:
Foreign airlines hiring, websites for contract pilots who fill positions overseas, specific conditions in specific countries/cities/airlines that you know about.

Here's one I found out. Viva Macau is hiring. Macau was a Portuguese controlled island off of China, similar to Hong Kong. A guy there has put $300K in the bank in two years of working there.

C U!
cliff
GRB



what kind of experience are they looking for?
 
I'm moving to Ireland tomorrow for a flying job. I have also been offered a job with Air Deccan in India. I just used the services of Direct Personnel and Aeroprofessional in my search. I'm going in as an ATR captain for Aer Arran in Ireland. For most these jobs you need a type rating in their aircraft and 400-500 hours in type.
 
I'm moving to Ireland tomorrow for a flying job. I have also been offered a job with Air Deccan in India. I just used the services of Direct Personnel and Aeroprofessional in my search. I'm going in as an ATR captain for Aer Arran in Ireland. For most these jobs you need a type rating in their aircraft and 400-500 hours in type.

Any problem with work permits for US citizens?
 
Korean Air is currently hiring B747 FOs and CAs and B777 CAs through agencies. FOs salary = $8500(after tax) + per diem.
 
B767 FO for Air Japan, part of the ANA group. Commuting contract. Base pay 1st year per month= $6162 (salary) + $1000 commuting allowance (have access to Zed tickets) + $500 housing + $550 pension contribution.

Hired through PARC and their website lists minimums
 
B767 FO for Air Japan, part of the ANA group. Commuting contract. Base pay 1st year per month= $6162 (salary) + $1000 commuting allowance (have access to Zed tickets) + $500 housing + $550 pension contribution.

Hired through PARC and their website lists minimums

Is the $500 housing, for housing in Japan or the US? Is that just to cover some crashpad expenses or are they expecting you to actually find a place to live on that? -kingaira90
 
It is for a place to stay in Japan when you are here working. Some guys get apartments near the airport or some just stay in a hotel. If you ended up doing a crash pad type of thing, you would probably have some left over.
 
Kingfisher in India is looking for bus drivers 320/321. Doing a road show in Bangkok. F/O mins 2000TT, 500 on type. Good job and great pay.
 
Cityjet

I I know Cityjet has hired FAA ATP's with BAE 146 type.
Dont know if they give work permit or no
www.cityjet.com.
Based in Ireland, but owned by Airfrance, therfore junior base is Paris.
 
King Fisher and Jet Airways in india are looking for experienced pilots. The latter will hire into the left seat of a 777 based in Europe if you've got enough heavy and command time.
 
Qatar
Etihad
Emirates
Oman Air
Air Arabia
China Airlines
EVA Air
Cathay
JALways
Air Japan (ANA)
Sri Lankan
Vietnam
ALL the Indian Airlines


The above are all hiring on and off with little or no previous type experience. As to terms and conditions - pick a carrier and pprune it.

fv
 
Most of the airlines in Asia and Middle East are hiring due to tremendous expansion. As fareview said pick a carrier and Pprune it and you will find a wealth of info for all your questions. I guess it's really beneficial to have at least a 320 type or a 737 type right now.
 
The above are all hiring on and off with little or no previous type experience. As to terms and conditions - pick a carrier and pprune it.
Dream on, what are you smoking? :rolleyes:
 
I'm moving to Ireland tomorrow for a flying job. I have also been offered a job with Air Deccan in India. I just used the services of Direct Personnel and Aeroprofessional in my search. I'm going in as an ATR captain for Aer Arran in Ireland. For most these jobs you need a type rating in their aircraft and 400-500 hours in type.
How are you getting a JAA ATP, or do you already have it.... that is quite a proccess....
 
Hi!

From my experience, ALL the Indian carriers want 500 hours in type, AND you have to have a type rating for Capt.

I believe all the 747 freighters (NOT Cathay) require time in type.

cliff
YIP
 
How are you getting a JAA ATP, or do you already have it.... that is quite a proccess....

You don't need a JAA ATP to fly here as a contract capt. All you have to do is get an IAA medical, have a current FAA medical and ATP and the company will do the rest. We are short on typed capts and there are provision for FAA licensed pilots to work in EU. If you want to work here permanently it really is not that hard to conver to a JAA ATP, just 14 written tests and some paperwork, I may do it in the future.
 
Cathay Pacific is hiring with no experience on type. In fact you can go the the right seat of a 744 with no airline experience at all. You just need some good turbine PIC time.

Starting pay is about 5K a month to start, plus 15% of base pay for retirement in cash, plus about 900 bucks a month in cash perdiem.

6 weeks of vactaion a year, plus some profit sharing makes for a good career.

Negitives - a little anti-Americanism from the Brits and Aussies (They don't like our politics and think our road to an ATP is a farce.), and a somewhat difficult check and training system.
 
all hiring on and off with little or no previous type experience.
Fareview, many on your list require you to be current and qualified, your statement is misleading IMO, for example:

Current ICAO Licence
- Current Class 1 Medical
- Current on A320
- 2500 hours total time
- 500 hours on A320
- 1500 hours on jet
- age 57 or under on 31st May 2007.
- last actual (NOT simulated) flight within last 6 months
 
Fareview, many on your list require you to be current and qualified, your statement is misleading IMO, for example:

With respect,

The following are hiring with NO experience on type;

Qatar
Etihad
Emirates
China Airlines
Eva Air
Cathay
JALways

and my original post said 'no or little'. The others if you have a little i.e. under 500 hrs - you will get a shot.

Not quite sure where the 'misleading' is.

Respectfully,

fareview
 
The others if you have a little i.e. under 500 hrs - you will get a shot.

The requirements I posted are from Vietnam Airlines, no shot I'm afraid, you either have the 500 hours and are current, or you don't get an interview. When I saw your blanket statement I felt it was misleading, I can only speak for Vietnam Airlines.

Respectfully SAO
 
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Negitives - a little anti-Americanism from the Brits and Aussies (They don't like our politics and think our road to an ATP is a farce.), and a somewhat difficult check and training system.

That is a SERIOUS problem as most Americans I know who've been over there stated. Either they hate the place after the interview, or after a few months on line. One guy told me "Every flight is like a checkride". It's sad since there are probably FAR more Britons working in the US than any Americans working for them.. Very unprofessional if you ask me.
 
"Every flight is like a checkride".

Not even close to the truth. Just to add... The freighter flying is so laid back it's not even funny. Some guys ar known to delay the push back so they can finish their meals etc.. On the pax side it's a little differnt due to the OTP considerations. But I gurantee you it is not diffrent from any US airline.
 
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Not even close to the truth.

I would like that to be the truth, trust me as I'd love to put in an app, but I've heard it first hand from quite a few. Sad, since their pay is good, and their QOL seems also to be quite nice.

BTW... here is a good opportunity if you've got enough heavy crew time:


Department: Flight Operations
Location: Abu Dhabi
Expiry Date: 31/12/2007

Description:

Join the worlds fastest growing Airline, Etihad Airways the national airline of the United Arab Emirates, based in the UAE capital, Abu Dhabi.

Etihad Airways sets out to be creative and innovative airline designed to meet the demands of a rapidly changing world. Our whole philosophy is built around the needs of our guest. We strive to provide a level of service, which will consistently meet and exceed our guest’s expectations.

Etihad Airways currently operates 23 aircraft including the latest generation of Airbus A330-200s, A340- 500s and B777-300s. Etihad will take further delivery of
A340-500, A340-600s, A330-200 in 2007 and the revolutionary A380 super jumbo in which is expected to join the fleet in 2009. Etihad Airways flies to North America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia and the Far East.


Qualifications:

A minimum of 2500 hours total flying time and
A minimum of 1000 hours on multi crew jet aircraft in excess of 60000 kgs and
ICAO ATPL,valid licence and medical
Must be current
Maximum age limit is 56 years old and
English Language Fluency ( written and verbal )
Preference would be given to candidates with Boeing 777 experience
The hours mentioned above shall be on powered fix wing aircraft only


Salary & Benefits:

Starting salary of AED 24500 or USD 6655 per month for First officers and an annual salary increment of AED 500 per month.

Flight duty allowance of AED 40 per flying hour.

Meal allowance during layovers as per the following rates:

-Middle East/ GCC/ Sub Continent AED 12 per hour

-Asia/ Far East AED 15 per hour

-Africa/ Australasia AED 18 per hour

-Europe/ Americas AED 23 per hour



Benefits:

Housing allowance up to AED 115000

(Or)

Company provided housing depending on availability

(Or)

The oppertunity to take advantage of our innovative "Rent to buy" house purchase programme.

Education allowance of AED 25000 for primary and AED 35000 for secondary up to 4 children from the ages of 4 up to 19 years old.

42 Days annual leave.
Staff travel benefits.
End of service benefits.
Accidental and life insurance benefits.

The above is subject to change without prior notice
 
I would like that to be the truth, trust me as I'd love to put in an app, but I've heard it first hand from quite a few.
So basically you are calling me a liar?

BTW I have been here just over 10 years and over the time I have heard quite a few stories about what is/was going on over at CX. Some of them true but most of them just plain bull... And your claim about "Every flight is like a checkride" I have never heard before.

If you need some honest insight feel free to PM me.
 

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