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T-1GUY

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I was in training today with a person who is "in the know" about NJA FO's getting a substantial raise by the end of the year. He said that new hire turnover has become a concern for the company and that the contract has been renegotiated and is being signed as we sit here. I asked him about home basing, and he just smiled. For what it is worth, he also said the Captains would get a raise....

Anyone else care to add their two cents... This comes from a very reliable source.
 
That is something I heard from a crew a few days ago. Supposedly a fairly substantial raise on the FO side to help stem attrition. Of course nothing I'm relaying here is based on any facts or sources higher up, but I guess the word is getting around that something might be going on.
 
Come on application email!! Come ONNNNN! dammit!
 
T-1GUY said:
I was in training today with a person who is "in the know" about NJA FO's getting a substantial raise by the end of the year. He said that new hire turnover has become a concern for the company and that the contract has been renegotiated and is being signed as we sit here. I asked him about home basing, and he just smiled. For what it is worth, he also said the Captains would get a raise....

Anyone else care to add their two cents... This comes from a very reliable source.
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I think in addition to help curb attrition, the FO payscale needs to be appealing to a highly qualified candidate in order to retain them for 5+ years until they upgrade. I am hearing that someone hired today could possibly see a 5-7 year upgrade, 3-5 years absolute best case scenario. I know it doesn't sound all too fun to me to sit in the right seat for 5 years making $50,000/year!
 
If management offers a raise the union can negotiate the raise and HBAs for all, don't see why that wouldn't work.
 
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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

seriously haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

another way to keep pilots coming in the door.

Do you really think the company can just change the contract at their whim?

Think about this they could open up HBA's tomorrow but they think a pay raise will keep pilots coming here even though the hba's are costing them money.

Unreal the stuff people will believe.
 
damn you nailed that one.

Oh yeah and no mention of HBA's.
 
gotta think though they just got more applications from one thread on this board than all year.

Because hey an FO raise it right around the corner. HAAAAHAAAA
 
Diesel said:
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

seriously haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

another way to keep pilots coming in the door.

Do you really think the company can just change the contract at their whim?

Think about this they could open up HBA's tomorrow but they think a pay raise will keep pilots coming here even though the hba's are costing them money.

Unreal the stuff people will believe.
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dude, do you really know whats going on at NJA? do you know what an LOA is? have you seen how many LOA's we have since the contract was signed?

I don't think you understand the union process very well
 
I understand the process. I also understand the history.

If it ain't written it doesn't exist.
 
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I heard the FOs will be offered a $10k raise but will have to sign a training contract and be domiciled in Tupelo. And we are getting hats.
 
So we can save fuel, while scheduling still sneaks stuff out the back door?

I'm not saying its possible but I don't believe a thing from the company till 1108 and the company sign off on the same piece of paper. Not from some guy that was in training with a friend of a friend.
 
I heard the company wants to offer HBA's to everyone but the union won't let them.
 
Hawker dude said:
dude, do you really know whats going on at NJA? do you know what an LOA is? have you seen how many LOA's we have since the contract was signed?

I don't think you understand the union process very well
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Funny, I was wondering the the same about you. This is not an LOA issue. It will go to a vote.

BTW, I am a NO vote. That is unless there is HBA for all and we loose nothing. Seriously.
 
I think the source was very accurate. He is negotiating on a daily basis on behalf of 1108. He said it was a done deal. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
 
Done deal huh? You know DV is not on the MEC anymore right???:eek:

It maybe a done deal when the ballots are counted.
 
Trust me. Diesel and Fozzy are VERY attuned to the process.

As am I.

There is nothing regarding this rumored pay increase circulating around the proper channels.

It is a farce.
 
Whether any of this true or not, I know that if you ask almost any FO hired last year they will tell you they want HBA and a raise in the next contract. A fairly substantial raise if you want any of them to stick around for 5+ years while they wait for upgrade. The first contract was good, but it has no provisions addressing a slower upgrade process.
 
buckeyes95 said:
Whether any of this true or not, I know that if you ask almost any FO hired last year they will tell you they want HBA and a raise in the next contract. A fairly substantial raise if you want any of them to stick around for 5+ years while they wait for upgrade. The first contract was good, but it has no provisions addressing a slower upgrade process.
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Wanting a raise is much different than GETTING a raise.

BTW... I am for both.
 
swampfan said:
I heard the FOs will be offered a $10k raise but will have to sign a training contract and be domiciled in Tupelo. And we are getting hats.
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I FINALLY FINISHED MY APP AND NOW I HAVE TO MOVE TO TUPELO!



...oh well I've always like the hats....when other people were wearing them.
 
swampfan said:
I heard the FOs will be offered a $10k raise but will have to sign a training contract and be domiciled in Tupelo. And we are getting hats.
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Mmmm. That contradicts what I heard. I understood it would be a 15K raise, with a training contract but flying Twin Otters (ofcourse all decked out with moose skin seats) in Labrador and points North. And there will be some lucky guys flying one tri-islander too. Supposedly this is the new Netjets North division.

I think that Diesel would fit rather well into the tri-islander. And rather than wearing the white scarf you can wear a racoon tail around your neck.
 
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Heck i've allready got the racoon hat.

If we can only keep our pilots from rolling the otters. :)
 
Diesel said:
I understand the process. I also understand the history.

If it ain't written it doesn't exist.
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Hey Diesel, are you directly involved in any of these negotiations that both the union and the company have confirmed are going on? I mean have you actually been present in the last few months during these negotiations?

A simple yes or no will do.
 

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