Go Jet

[redbook]

Whose intent was circumvented? Do you think the Holding Company planned on giving up their right to make decisions in the best interest of the company? If your union had negotiated such an agreement you would have prevailed in court or in the grievance process. You keep saying things like should have. You still don't understand that the intent is clear in agreements. It is not a technicality that allowed this it was your own union, and the pilots who voted to not do the GoJet flying when you had the chance. Now because you miscalculated in your strategy you want to use fuzzy logic of your interpretation of intent. Sorry, once again your arguments hold no logic or fact.

The holding company planned on giving up their.....?????

I can't even follow you theo. The holding company is just a Frank Lorenzo type tool. (kind of like you)

I guess he would be a hero of yours, right?

 

[theo]

The holding company planned on giving up their.....?????

I can't even follow you theo. The holding company is just a Frank Lorenzo type tool. (kind of like you)

I guess he would be a hero of yours, right?

Why would you think that? Just because I wont let you get away with
misinformation and sour grapes because you screwed up your chance
at GoJet flying. Sorry once again your wrong.

 

[redbook]

Why would you think that? Just because I wont let you get away with
misinformation and sour grapes because you screwed up your chance
at GoJet flying. Sorry once again your wrong.

Misinformation was that rambling bs you spewed.

No chance for alter ego pilots. Sorry.

 

[theo]

Misinformation was that rambling bs you spewed.

No chance for alter ego pilots. Sorry.

Really? What part was misinformation? Was it the fact you voted down the chance to do the GoJet flying? Was it the fact that the NMB and your own union said that ALPA had no right to the GoJet flying if you voted it down? Enlighten me as to the misinformation you are referring to? Once again your wrong.

 

[redbook]

Really? What part was misinformation? Was it the fact you voted down the chance to do the GoJet flying? Was it the fact that the NMB and your own union said that ALPA had no right to the GoJet flying if you voted it down? Enlighten me as to the misinformation you are referring to? Once again your wrong.

A chance to do the flying?

Uhh, no. Gojet is an alter ego designed to whipsaw the TSA pilots. By "taking" the "chance" as you call it, we would have been whipsawed by the likes of you.

No thanks theo. Enjoy your alter ego career.

 

[acpilot]

Honestly, pilots are a dime a dozen these days. We get paid what the market will bear and that's that; there will always be someone willing to do the job for less money...ALWAYS...and we know that. A lot of you guys seem to be getting mad at people acting in their own best interest which, some argue, is exactly what they should do. For many, the regionals ARE just a stepping stone, not a career (I know I wouldn't want to retire in an RJ of some sort). They DO NOT care about anything but fast upgrades and PIC turbine, and how can you fault them? Some see this as detrimental to the industry as a whole...ok, maybe it is. In my opinion it's not their fault. The real problem is that there are simply too many pilots vying for a finite number of positions creating an extremely competitive job market. Everone is willing to accept just a little less then the next guy. The regionals would be OUT OF THEIR MINDS to pay more that what they think is the minimum required (a "fair price," as they call it) to keep pilots on staff. It seems unfair and wrong, I know. Those who have families and need the money suffer while the young, unmarried “kids” get exactly what they want: free flight time. (Don’t get me wrong, I’m not happy with the regional carriers at all, I can't stand them). Where do all these low time F/O’s willing to work for pennies come from anyway? I'm sure I'll catch h3ll for this...

 

[rtmcfi]

acpilot-
You can't stand regionals, yet here you are on a thread that is seven pages deep? Why are you here? Equally important, where have you been? It is a competitive market......if you happen to be trying to hire someone to fly an RJ for dirt wages. Mins are dropping like crazy. Hiring bonuses are sprouting up.

 

[acpilot]

...i passed that around to regional friends of mine, they seem to agree.

 

[theo]

A chance to do the flying?

Uhh, no. Gojet is an alter ego designed to whipsaw the TSA pilots. By "taking" the "chance" as you call it, we would have been whipsawed by the likes of you.

No thanks theo. Enjoy your alter ego career.

Couldnt find any misinformation? Did'nt think so...Redbook is wrong again, and one final question. As you say again "NO Thanks' to the Gojet flying what are you bitching about..you still say you don't want it. Redbook is confused again.

 

[johndt]

there will always be someone willing to do the job for less money.

It's not about taking a job 4 less; it's about taking a job at an alter ego carrier being used as a whipsaw -- period.

I won't soon forget and there are a lot of others who won't either.

Fly somewhere else; it's not exactly a tight job market right now.

 

[redbook]

Couldnt find any misinformation? Did'nt think so...Redbook is wrong again, and one final question. As you say again "NO Thanks' to the Gojet flying what are you bitching about..you still say you don't want it. Redbook is confused again.

Keep dancing theo. Round and round. It won't help, everyone knows about gojet and their alter ego pilots. Good luck with getting on at skybus, if you are "lucky".

 

[f/o(forever)]

I'll sum this up the best I can. Jump seating on united mainline and talking about gojet. Captain says to me why would any one want to go to a non union airline in an industry full of unions? What will that pilot answer in the interview conducted by union pilots? Need I say more? This was said by a united airbus captain! We will see how it goes for alter ego tools when united and usairways start hiring. Too many informed and ex TSA. Good Luck!

 

[Shrek]

Hey GoJet.............how is that contract coming along?

Theo and co?..........

 

[Turbosnake03]

I worked there and i have move on .. i worked at eagle before working at gojet, got my PIC now im at CAL.

i call BS on that.

 

[redbook]

i call BS on that.

Interesting. Turbo, you have been defending gojet forever and now, you call bs on one of the alter ego scumbags making it to CAL?

Unfortunately its true. Still a small number.