ASA = Clownshow

[jacksjj]

We were into ATL 15 minutes early yesterday and After the pax got off, it was like everyone on the ramp and upstairs just disappeared. Seriously, it was like a magic trick....POOF! Gone. There was NO ONE around. After a few minutes of sitting there, and realizing something was OBVIOUSLY going on... we decided to wait to see how long it was going to take to get this show on the road without us going out of our way.

So, when we were about 20 minutes late already, ops calls us and says "Uh....whats the holdup?" About the same time, a "supervisor" walked up and asked us what was taking us so long to get outta there. After telling him what was going on, he said "Oh, Ill go inside and check it out." About two minutes later, he comes...and Im not kidding you.... SPRINTING back outside with the release in his hand and said "OH MY GOD!!!! There is noone up there!!!"

So after we do our business and are ready to leave town, he comes in and tells us that Delta only gave the folks a two hour window to take their drug tests, and they were all gone. ALL OF THEM.

Nice.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Can you say BasketBall!!!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Got to love it. If DAL does not take a lot of this flying in house, they deserve what they are going to get. ASA is a joke.

 

[Sherpa]

The sad thing is that the scenario you describe happens all too often in Atlanta for one reason or another. It has gotten slightly better but I wouldn't let that stop you from bailing if the opportunity arises. Hopefully Skywest Inc. will un-FUBAR the operation.

 

[wms]

The sad thing is that the scenario you describe happens all too often in Atlanta for one reason or another. It has gotten slightly better but I wouldn't let that stop you from bailing if the opportunity arises. Hopefully Skywest Inc. will un-FUBAR the operation.

Don't you think after two years of owning us and everything getting worse, SKYW would've done something by now? They have no desire to fix things if it doesn't affect their wallet. There have been no substantial changes in our operations and there won't be. Just like after every other bad press release there will be an announcement that they're going to make changes that won't add up to more than window dressing and excuses to SGU.

 

[AV8700]

Don't you think after two years of owning us and everything getting worse, SKYW would've done something by now? They have no desire to fix things if it doesn't affect their wallet. There have been no substantial changes in our operations and there won't be. Just like after every other bad press release there will be an announcement that they're going to make changes that won't add up to more than window dressing and excuses to SGU.

Give them some credit, now every flight attendant that calls in sick has to have a doctors note. This should get to the bottom of all the problems

 

["GO AROUND"]

40 minutes late waiting on fuel. AS1G is helping sick this ship. Probably the 15th time over the last months that lack of fuel has caused a delay.

DAL thinks they can run our operation with half the staff. That's what I am hearing from the ramp folks. Gotta love it!

 

[scarlet]

lets start a petition for single carrier operations and get rid of the GO in ATL--lets have a vote for single carrier ALPA--

 

[EMB170Pilot]

sad

 

[EV120]

to ACL65....I say Delta takes it all in house...merge all of the carriers into one list, DOH, and you would be junior to me now.....

I'm just kidding (publically....privately I'm not)

 

[ACL65PILOT]

ALPA has nothing to do with this one. Sorry. We do not need to help this one along. It falls apart all by itself.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Got to love it. If DAL does not take a lot of this flying in house, they deserve what they are going to get. ASA is a joke.

So let me get this straight... you leave ASA, go to Delta, and now all of a sudden you think Delta should take back our flying and shut down ASA? What's going on over there? Do the double breasted jackets suddenly turn you into an a$$hole?

 

[goahead]

So let me get this straight... you leave ASA, go to Delta, and now all of a sudden you think Delta should take back our flying and shut down ASA? What's going on over there? Do the double breasted jackets suddenly turn you into an a$$hole?

I think so with his perfect hair.....

 

[jeroom]

Some of you guys really need to consider getting an Ipod...

It would be good for your blood pressure...seriously!

 

[John Pennekamp]

Some of you guys really need to consider getting an Ipod...

It would be good for your blood pressure...seriously!

I already have one. I keep it in my backpack next to my hair gel and Top Gun DVD.

 

[Flyer1015]

Ok, this thread is called ASA "Clownshow" , so where is the guy with the "BL the Clown" avatar?! He should post here just to get that clown picture in this thread.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Ok, this thread is called ASA "Clownshow" , so where is the guy with the "BL the Clown" avatar?! He should post here just to get that clown picture in this thread.

They probably figured out who he was and promoted (demoted?) him to a management position. The new VP of Flight Cancellations.

 

[JettBoii]

We sat on the ramp the other night for 45 minutes. I watched my flight home(last one out ) push back and taxi away without me on it. The best part was there were no hotels available due to the B-Ball games. Love it.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

No the double breasted jacket did not make me an a$$hole. I think I was that before hand.
Look at the facts guys. We grew like gang busters in 02-04. We were taking all of the thin main line routes. I predict that, IF DAL management cannot budge scope a lot of ASA and all of DCI's current flying will be brought back in house with a 190 size aircraft. Not all of it, but most of it. The pendulum is swinging the other direction.
Delta also knows that the next battle for the airlines is customer service. All cost structures are relatively equal. Now if will come down to the most bang for the buck. If DAL and SKW cannot fix this problem, they know that there is one solution. Bring the flying back to the main line where there is more quality control. Come one. We ranked last in every possible category. Every one says we are a joke, not just me. The place could be a great place to work, but the fact is that no one cares to make the difference, no should we until we have a good CBA in our hands.
Delta is now making decisions for our future with out notifying anyone here. It is like they have given up hope. When people in the Go are starting to get scared, it should make all of us take note. I know I have.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

That'd be awesome if Delta took back most of our flying. It might hurt some newhire FO's and those captains who are lifers here, but for the majority, more mainline jobs is great.

 

[737 Pylt]

So let me get this straight... you leave ASA, go to Delta, and now all of a sudden you think Delta should take back our flying and shut down ASA? What's going on over there? Do the double breasted jackets suddenly turn you into an a$$hole?

Well, you've never worn one and you're a huge a$$hole!

That'd be awesome if Delta took back most of our flying. It might hurt some newhire FO's and those captains who are lifers here, but for the majority, more mainline jobs is great.

Its nice to see that some people still understand that!

737

 

[John Pennekamp]

Well, you've never worn one and you're a huge a$$hole!
737

Uh, hello, pot, it's the kettle calling...

Congratulations, loser... you've finally earned it:

737 Pylt
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Ahhh! Finally, sweet relief!

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Uh, hello, pot, it's the kettle calling...

Congratulations, loser... you've finally earned it:

737 Pylt
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Ahhh! Finally, sweet relief!

The adult equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "nyah nyah I can't hear you!"

 

[John Pennekamp]

The adult equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "nyah nyah I can't hear you!"

Nevertheless. A good way to avoid someone who NEVER has anything intelligent to add to the conversation. Call it whatever you want, I couldn't care less.

 

[737 Pylt]

The adult equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "nyah nyah I can't hear you!"

He's also the same prick telling all his f/o's to to what he tells them to do because he's the captain, and they'll do what he says. I bet he's a real joy to fly with!
The guy's a complete tool box!

737

 

[737 Pylt]

Nevertheless. A good way to avoid someone who NEVER has anything intelligent to add to the conversation.

Oh you mean like this:

What's going on over there? Do the double breasted jackets suddenly turn you into an a$$hole?

Prick doesn't even begin to describe this guy!

737

 

[wms]

This message is hidden because 737 Pylt is on your ignore list. Because all your posts do nothing but bash others.

 

[USCtrojan]

When people in the Go are starting to get scared, it should make all of us take note. I know I have.[/quote]

I think the folks in the GO are scared because they know they could be next on the chopping block. Our performance numbers have steadily decreased since Skip, and got worse under Brian. In some categories, if our numbers increased by 50%, we'd still be dead last. The Corporate Culture is an obscene nightmare. Our staffing levels are hanging on by a thread, and that's only because good people are being abused with extensions and Jr. Manning. Only one way to fix it. ASA should die. Clean out the GO, and let Skywest absorb the rest. I feel this is why if you're in a mgmt. position, you should be scared, furthermore, if you're in a mgmt. position at ASA, shame on you for the monumentally crappy job you have done at this company.

Trojan

 

[jacksjj]

When people in the Go are starting to get scared, it should make all of us take note. I know I have.

I think the folks in the GO are scared because they know they could be next on the chopping block. Our performance numbers have steadily decreased since Skip, and got worse under Brian. In some categories, if our numbers increased by 50%, we'd still be dead last. The Corporate Culture is an obscene nightmare. Our staffing levels are hanging on by a thread, and that's only because good people are being abused with extensions and Jr. Manning. Only one way to fix it. ASA should die. Clean out the GO, and let Skywest absorb the rest. I feel this is why if you're in a mgmt. position, you should be scared, furthermore, if you're in a mgmt. position at ASA, shame on you for the monumentally crappy job you have done at this company.

Trojan[/quote]

Even though I absolutely HATE USC, Im gonna have to give you a pass and agree with you on this one... From someone who used to work in the GO before heading out to fly the line, that place is a clownshow almost as bad, if not worse, than our daily line operations. I dont know how many days I would note people taking 3 hour lunches or sitting around in their cube blabbing about their son's tournament, their new boat, or whatever else for hours on end.... I have seen projects that are one MAYBE two day jobs, AT MOST, take over three months. I mean... how long have we been trying to get an ASAP program now?? I KNOW at least 4 years. AT LEAST 4.

So from another thread, but still very related.... Did Gary Hall and Sorrell get fired or what??? Anyone know the deal with that??

 

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Jacksjj:

There are several stories going around. The most credible story started years ago with Dick McAdoo, who by most accounts did a good job. That story relates that SkyWest did not have a similar department and did not understand why ASA needed one. From a cost standpoint, the position was deemed redundant.

Gary Hall also has a pretty marketable resume. If SkyWest demanded pay cuts he may have decided to move on to a better opportunity rather than return to the line for a few months before age 60.

I have no idea if any of the more dramatic rumors are true. Gary Hall was a long time Staff Officer and expert political operative. I doubt he would have stepped on his Superiors. I hope he doesn't show up at a FSDO like Scott Young did.