Update - US Airways Recalls

[737 Pylt]

No doubt. We need to get together and start improving our contract. Seniority is out of our hands, negotiations ain't.

Grog:
When is the arbitrator supposed to rule on the seniority?

737

 

[LearLove]

Grog:
When is the arbitrator supposed to rule on the seniority?

737

begining of May sometime, give or take a week......

 

[Swaayze]

I would be afraid to go back and have no choice except the 75. Unending RSV and no ability to voluntarily bid other equipment/domiciles. I'd rather do the lock in the 190 and then have options! Funny how there's something for everyone I guess, huh?

As for the seniority list, I thought I recently saw an expectation of early June. I hope a single contract will be quickly forthcoming as that time approaches so we'll have a clue what we'd be getting into by returning. And I have to agree with Green, anyone who returns with expectations of anything more than bottom of the list needs a drug test (this is not to say what's right, rather that to assume anything in a decision of this magnitude is crazy).

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

I read in the mec notes that he said not to expect a decision before june.

Guess I'll have more time to work on my Basket Weaving degree from Whatsamatta U Online.

 

[Jetpipeovht]

I read in the mec notes that he said not to expect a decision before june.

Guess I'll have more time to work on my Basket Weaving degree from Whatsamatta U Online.

Then you will be eligible to be hired at DAL!!

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

I think that's what pylt said, if I get my degree he'll walk my sh!t in. Maybe my future would be brighter at Delta.

Guess I'd better get my logbook back up to date. Can I log the actual if I'm SIC?

Better check the regional boards for some interviewing tips....

 

[FLYLOW22]

Flylow 22 said "to ask pilots to return to Us Airways without a solid seniority list in place........is absolute madness."

Right.

Madness.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Typhoon,

You are obviously ignorant of your own MC's demands. They are asking that the MAJORITY of our captains be JUNIOR to furloughed AAA pilots. Our number 1 pilot would be around 900 down the list. They want many of our junior fo's to be stapled below your entire list including 1800 or so furloughed pilots. You've got to hand it to them for reaching high..lol...I would suggest you educate yourself before throwing stones next time.

MC?

Well, I looked at the West proposed integration and it was horrible. I looked at the East proposed integration and it showed a 6/99 hire junior to a 2002 AWA hire.

That's pretty sucky.

Dunno about other proposals for pilots hired prior. Don't care. I can't decide for them and most on property are committed at the age of 55 anyway.

 

[BenderGonzales]

I think you folks from AWA need to cut the furloughees a little slack on this message board. We've been on the street now for over 5 years and most of us stopped paying attention to what ALPO was doing after the 3rd or 4th time they screwed us post-furlough.

We have no idea what are involved in, and have provided no input into, the integration proposals. So give us a break, would ya? Those of us who decided to avoid Jets-for-screwjobs have remained blissfully ignorant of US Airways for a long time now.

Only now that the letters and phonecalls have started coming have we started looking at the possibility of recall. (Do you have any idea how hard it is to make a decision like that without even knowing what the current contract is like in terms of pay, work-rules, retirement, commuter clause, etc.?)

 

[typhoonpilot]

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I think you folks from AWA need to cut the furloughees a little slack on this message board. We've been on the street now for over 5 years and most of us stopped paying attention to what ALPO was doing after the 3rd or 4th time they screwed us post-furlough.

We have no idea what are involved in, and have provided no input into, the integration proposals. So give us a break, would ya? Those of us who decided to avoid Jets-for-screwjobs have remained blissfully ignorant of US Airways for a long time now.

Only now that the letters and phonecalls have started coming have we started looking at the possibility of recall. (Do you have any idea how hard it is to make a decision like that without even knowing what the current contract is like in terms of pay, work-rules, retirement, commuter clause, etc.?)

Oh, but Bender, Green and his ilk would like to take advantage of the 2500 retirements that are going to occur in the East over the next 8 years. They care not about you or your prospects at the new airline. They would like to see themselves upgrade before an East pilot hired in 1989 ( I'm guessing Green was hired in 2000/2001 ).

The East proposal effectively creates fences for the next 7 years to protect both sides from hugely unfair seniority leaps from happening. The West proposal is the worst case scenario and is about as bad as the AA/TWA integration, yet Green comes on here and complains ad nauseam.

Holy cow, didn't we just end this thread?

We did, but Green jumped into again. A response to his immature ramblings had to be made.

Our number 1 should be number 1 because your 900 or so above him wouldn't be working at USAirways if AWA didn't put together the deal to buy you guys.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Conjecture at best that U would have failed without AWA. I could easily say that, in time, AWA would have failed without the benefits of U's traffic in the east.

Lets just wait for Nicodemus to rule so we can stop the hypotheticals.

It's Nicolau, and I agree.

Now back to our originally scheduled recall thread, thanks for playing



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