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Airboss said:
The other week the airplane we we on had some oil (maybe 2 oz.) on the engine exhaust. I called Mx and they said its no big deal fine to fly...i said thats fine let me write it up and you can ops check ok it.....then they actually investigated it more and we swapped airplanes because it was a few hour job to change some of the carbon seals.
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Yep that sounds about right, ops check good ok for service, could not duplicate on ground, the same sh!t different day. ASA will never change, the management continues to recruit yes men. They are short flight attendants, flight cancellations are coming, hey ED, SH, CT, ET, and of course BL, guess what, your wake up call is coming very soon, just ask KR and CV. Oh lets not forget the 20 year old chief pilot. ASA management will not negotiate a contract this year, for pilots, the flight attendants, or the dispatchers. I do not regret leaving ASA for one minute. ASA is the worst run regional out there. Bar None
 
jehtplane said:
Are you blind? You must be management.
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So if you don't agree that ASA is the "worst run regional", you are management? I am currently an ALPA volunteer and I volunteered in the strike center this week. However I can think of a few regionals that are worse than ASA. How about Mesa and Transtates? Are we worse than those two?
 
FightingIrish said:
So if you don't agree that ASA is the "worst run regional", you are management? I am currently an ALPA volunteer and I volunteered in the strike center this week. However I can think of a few regionals that are worse than ASA. How about Mesa and Transtates? Are we worse than those two?
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Thank you. I'm not in management. I just think that there are worse places to be, and worse run regionals. Mesa is a good example. They treat their pilots like dog crap, undercut everyone on price by paying their employees peanuts, and they have a bad product as well.

ASA may have management issues, but I do not think that we are the worst. I think a lot of people lately are polarized by the negotiation process, and those that aren't at the extreme get called management.

For my situation, I would not want to be at any other regional. The base is perfect for my commute, I'm flying decent equipment with great co-workers, the upgrade time is rapidly decreasing, and I truly believe this place will grow tremendously once we get the contract settled.
 
ASA_Aviator said:
Thank you. I'm not in management. I just think that there are worse places to be, and worse run regionals. Mesa is a good example. They treat their pilots like dog crap, undercut everyone on price by paying their employees peanuts, and they have a bad product as well.

ASA may have management issues, but I do not think that we are the worst. I think a lot of people lately are polarized by the negotiation process, and those that aren't at the extreme get called management.

For my situation, I would not want to be at any other regional. The base is perfect for my commute, I'm flying decent equipment with great co-workers, the upgrade time is rapidly decreasing, and I truly believe this place will grow tremendously once we get the contract settled.
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I couldn't agree more. Finally someone that isn't total doom and gloom.
 
Guys, the SAT incident is why the training dept now does the NRFO II's. They mtc dept still tries to make them take aircraft that do not have decent engineering letter. It did not change anting.
Tom is still there. As of Friday he had his job and was not going anywhere.
Gary Hall is gone.
Other than that, I am sire that there is more to come.
 
ASA_Aviator said:
Thank you. I'm not in management. I just think that there are worse places to be, and worse run regionals. Mesa is a good example. They treat their pilots like dog crap, undercut everyone on price by paying their employees peanuts, and they have a bad product as well.

ASA may have management issues, but I do not think that we are the worst. I think a lot of people lately are polarized by the negotiation process, and those that aren't at the extreme get called management.

For my situation, I would not want to be at any other regional. The base is perfect for my commute, I'm flying decent equipment with great co-workers, the upgrade time is rapidly decreasing, and I truly believe this place will grow tremendously once we get the contract settled.
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Ok that is part of the problem you are more concerned about upgrading to the left seat than how you are being treated. Is scheduling fair to pilots, is management attempting to negotiate a contract?, do you honestly think that ASA is even descently run? All I can say is WOW if you do. Are the constant contract violations OK? Does management telling other members of the management team that " no contract will be completed this year with the pilots so there will be pay increases for the management team", is that OK? Is that well run? ASA has some great employee groups, so do not get me wrong, I was there for 8 years, so I know. But the management at ASA is terrible.
 
jehtplane said:
Did you read my post, the worst run regional airline, are you defending the management at ASA?
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Did you read my post??? I said that Mesa is worse run, which logically, means that ASA can't be the worst run. I know some guys that work(ed) there, and believe me, things are worse at Mesa.

And what if I were defending the managment at ASA? (If you actually read my post, you would see that I'm not, but let's go hypothetical here.) Would that instantly mean I have nothing important to say?
 
1. Shame to see Gary go. My understanding is he told BL to fix things rather than put bandaids on things. That will get you tossed out of the palace when you say things like that. There are a lot of similarities between management and ALPA - don't tell either that the "emporer has no cloths"...

2. Don't ever trust MTC to tell you that it is "OK to take it". If it doesn't seem right, it probably isn't...

3. ASA has problems, but it isn't the worst. Not the best, and not the worst...

4. I suspect more shakeups are coming........ especially after the contract is settled...
 
Lots of people will be DAL pilots shortly. This place is having major staffing issues right now.
 
IFLYASA said:
Yes, starts on the 16th.
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So I guess that whole recency of flight thing is a load of crap. She might have come out of her cube 4 times last year to fly the line. On top of that she doesn't want to fly...all she wants is to be some management lacky for Delta. She was pretty good at it for ASA.
 
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Sinca3 said:
So I guess that whole recency of flight thing is a load of crap. She might have come out o her cube 4 times last year to fly the line. On top of that she doesn't want to fly...all she wants is to be some management lacky for Delta. She was pretty good at it for ASA.
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Head On... applied directly to the forhead...............

 
Head On... applied directly to the forhead...............
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Hey, Flav, rumor has it that your neck clock is set to Mountain Standard Time. Inquiring minds want to know.
 
RJAA said:
So is Mary a Delta pilot of not? That's the important question.
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Yup, good 'ole Mary "Flat Back" Rottencrotch has gone to the Mother Ship. Meat shopping, I'm sure. Let's see how much flatter her back can get. Charlie hooked her up after she hooked him up. This of course after GH and WD (think South Africa) got into a "discussion" at Falcon Field over her.

Creams and pills.........
Creams and pills.........
 
DrunkIrishman said:
ASA Aviator-

The statement was that ASA was the "worst run airline out there." Not that it was the worst to work for from the pilot's perspective. There is a big difference there. Here's some evidence to support his/her belief about us being the worst run:

http://www.aqr.aero/aqrreports/AQR2007full.pdf
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My point is that one follows the other. A company that is horrible to work for is likely not run well.

Many of the things on that report have nothing to do with ASA directly. Many of ASA's problems with baggage and on-time performance have to do with Mother D.

If you can separate how well run a company is, and how well they treat their employees, more power to you. They are one and the same.
 
Long Time Gone said:
Yup, good 'ole Mary "Flat Back" Rottencrotch has gone to the Mother Ship. Meat shopping, I'm sure. Let's see how much flatter her back can get. Charlie hooked her up after she hooked him up. This of course after GH and WD (think South Africa) got into a "discussion" at Falcon Field over her.

Creams and pills.........
Creams and pills.........
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Maybe we need to warn the DAL pilots. General Lee, WATCH OUT!!!!!

Oh, oh here she comes.................
Oh, oh here she comes.................
Watch out boys, she'll chew you up.
She's a man eater........................
 
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