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socony_air

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I recently had a car vandalized while on a trip. My wife & young daughter were in bed for the night. My wife and I are considering our options & I'm wondering if anyone has any good recommendations for installers/monitoring companies southwest of Atlanta.

Since we're all away so often, I thought someone might have had a similar experience - or could relate how they helped a spouse feel more secure while they were out of town.

I have an OLD monitoring panel that was malfuntioning when we moved in & is not currently monitored. I either need to repair it or more likely get a new system. I'm also really interested in some quality outside/night vision cameras to set up for her to look at if something goes bump in the night outside & she gets scared. (then load the shotgun or call the cops...) thanks all.
 
You can get a driveway sensor, magnetic window contacts on each window, acoustic glassbreak detectors for each room (in case they break the window instead of opening it), dual mode microwave/passive infared motion detectors for each room (in case they cut the glass with a class cutter and don't open the window), a keypad by each door and in the master bedroom, a wire along the phone line into the ground to detect if someone cuts it, and a wireless keypad pennant for the wife to wear (in addition to a panic switch she can reach from her bed) for less than $2000. Monthly monitoring is around $15.

You need to personally talk to a few of the local (not ADT or Brinks) security companies for the installation and monitoring.
 
Better lighting

I've been a police officer for a long time and I believe in motion detection type lighting is one of the most cost effective ways to curb this. I don't want to get into a long discussion here but people who commit crimes like to not be seen, cover is their friend. Dark areas or areas of over grown bushes that allow them to not be seen.

Hope this helps a little, fly safe,

AvDad
 
I live in Marietta and use Phoenix security systems. Have been with them for about two years and no complains yet. I have by mistake set the Alarm off and missed the call Phoenix makes to verify password and if everything is o.k. ( I turned the alarm off and jumped in the shower) Sure enough, two cop cars showed up within 10 minutes. At least I know it works.
Its $ 20 a month not sure how much they charge for installation, we moved into a new house with it already installed. The number is 678-566-2640
 
I can recommend a breeder of German Shepherds in South Fulton County. Nothing like a 110lb dog to keep the undesirables away (The breed is very good at protecting the whole family, and ours is great with kids).


We got the dog because I am out of town a lot.
 
You can get a driveway sensor, magnetic window contacts on each window, acoustic glassbreak detectors for each room (in case they break the window instead of opening it), dual mode microwave/passive infared motion detectors for each room (in case they cut the glass with a class cutter and don't open the window), a keypad by each door and in the master bedroom, a wire along the phone line into the ground to detect if someone cuts it, and a wireless keypad pennant for the wife to wear (in addition to a panic switch she can reach from her bed) for less than $2000. Monthly monitoring is around $15.

You need to personally talk to a few of the local (not ADT or Brinks) security companies for the installation and monitoring.

Sounds like you've been in the industry :) I was at C&K Systems working on the DT-7xx line of Dual-Tec motion sensors (uWave/PIR) when I got tired of my cubicle and turned to flying. We all agreed in the industry. The best system for home security is a barking dog weighing more than 50lbs.
 
First, get a gun and learn how to use it properly if you don't already.
Second, make it known that you have firearms and are unafraid to use them regardless of the circumstances.
Third, teach your spouse how to use the weapon, well.
Fourth, light up your house like Centennial Park.
Fifth, as mentioned before, buy a mean-looking, large dog. Chances are the type hood-rat that is vandalizing yo stuff doesn't care for dogs unless they are Pits chained to the tree in their own front yard.
Sixth, call the police every time you suspect anyone in your neighborhood and keep calling.

GOOD LUCK!

The best thing would be move from southwest Atlanta, but I understand why that's not your first impulse.
 
I recommend a Glock or a good old fashion Smith and Wesson. Maybe a shoot gun?

As phil hendrie would say whats wrong with that?
 
mossberg model 500 20 gauge. Live it, learn it, love it

i recommend a mossberg also. 12 gauge though... get the special use one with the heat rail on the barrel. Holds 9 2 3/4inch OO buckshot shells and 1 in the chamber. and 6 3inch OObuck magnum loads... it would definitely make quick work of the intruder. just make sure you hit him cuz those lead balls will rip right through dry-wall.

oh yea...get the mothion sensing lights also..those work very well
 
i recommend a mossberg also. 12 gauge though... get the special use one with the heat rail on the barrel. Holds 9 2 3/4inch OO buckshot shells and 1 in the chamber. and 6 3inch OObuck magnum loads... it would definitely make quick work of the intruder. just make sure you hit him cuz those lead balls will rip right through dry-wall.

oh yea...get the mothion sensing lights also..those work very well

Load #9 Birdshot. At close range it will have similar effect to OO, but is less likely to penetrate drywall, and less likely to have stray shot going too far.
 
bump...anybody else?? SW Atlanta referral?? thanks all.
I dont know about Atlanta, but Dallas, if you have one of those security systems, the cops WILL NOT show up because they say it burdens the police department. That argument was actually made and the city council approved it. Get a gun and a dog and make it easier on everyone. I do recommend a shotgun. No aiming in the dark. Just orient in the direction of the noise and send that fukcer to his maker!
 
I recently had a car vandalized while on a trip. My wife & young daughter were in bed for the night. My wife and I are considering our options & I'm wondering if anyone has any good recommendations for installers/monitoring companies southwest of Atlanta.

Since we're all away so often, I thought someone might have had a similar experience - or could relate how they helped a spouse feel more secure while they were out of town.

I have an OLD monitoring panel that was malfuntioning when we moved in & is not currently monitored. I either need to repair it or more likely get a new system. I'm also really interested in some quality outside/night vision cameras to set up for her to look at if something goes bump in the night outside & she gets scared. (then load the shotgun or call the cops...) thanks all.


Move out of ATL. The place is crap. My guess is the airline you for sucks too.
 
If you do choose a firearm to protect your family, MAKE SURE YOU GET PROPER TRAINING. Your wife especially. God forbid, if something ever did happen, having a firearm and not knowing how to properly use it could make the situation a lot worse.

My means of protecting the home:
1) ADT - got the full works
2) An American Bulldog
3) A wife who is also a former Marine!
 
Proper firearms training is good but the real question is whether your wife would actually use deadly force. Having a loaded gun does no good if the perp gets ahold of it. Without the mindset, it's worthless.

+1 for security lighting and a good dog.
 
Proper firearms training is good but the real question is whether your wife would actually use deadly force. Having a loaded gun does no good if the perp gets ahold of it. Without the mindset, it's worthless.

+1 for security lighting and a good dog.

Deadly force is not always necessary. Just tell your wife to put two in the ceiling when someone comes up the stairs and I doubt the intruder will continue. If he does, she's already exercised her trigger finger and will be practiced up on utilizing the remaining 10 rounds.

Either way, if an intruder makes it to your wife it most likely will not matter whether he is armed with common household goods, whatever he brought, or the firearm that your wife hands him.

If on his way to your wife's room he picked up your brand new Wustof Santoku knife from the kitchen about the only thing that will stop him will be the firearm. Certainly not the security lighting or dog.

In my opinion having 5 lines of defense is key. Although the last line of defense is much more important than the first.
 
If on his way to your wife's room he picked up your brand new Wustof Santoku knife from the kitchen about the only thing that will stop him will be the firearm. Certainly not the security lighting or dog.
You'd be amazed how fiercely some dogs will defend their family. I'm not a huge pitbull fan, but heres an example.
 
Load #9 Birdshot. At close range it will have similar effect to OO, but is less likely to penetrate drywall, and less likely to have stray shot going too far.

Bingo! When non-gun owners ask me the best pistol to get for home defense the answer is always a Mossberg or Winchester Defender shotgun with extended magazine and pistol grip. Loaded with light bird shot it keeps damage low to occupants not in the line of fire. You can make your way through door frames and have two hands secure on the weapon in a hip shooting posture. The visual/aural deterent factor is also much higher with a shotgun over a 9mm. A little shotgun and a little training go a long way!
 
Get the dog I have a Doberman and post signs that say my Doberman can make it to this gate in 3 seconds can you! Most of the time people don't use guns and end up having them taken from them and used against them.

A guardian breed dog is great with your family and out of instinct will protect!!! Little or no training needed if the dog is loved by you. I have no doubts that my doberman would fight a intruder till her last breath.
 
Bingo! When non-gun owners ask me the best pistol to get for home defense the answer is always a Mossberg or Winchester Defender shotgun with extended magazine and pistol grip. Loaded with light bird shot it keeps damage low to occupants not in the line of fire. You can make your way through door frames and have two hands secure on the weapon in a hip shooting posture. The visual/aural deterent factor is also much higher with a shotgun over a 9mm. A little shotgun and a little training go a long way!


With bird shot he might live. with OO buck... he might be recognizable as a human LOL.also bird shot is steel....OO buck is lead. Its heavier and there will be no doubt the OO buck would stop any type of forward advancement. i prefer the normal stock and firing from the shoulder. Cuz if your inexperienced from firing from the waist you could miss or maybe drop the gun if your not use to the recoil. plus buy one of those florescent sights that light up if there is any type of light present(even moonlight). just put the green dot on the perp and its curtains. Thats what i got on mine. i wouldnt recomend a handgun unless you have night sights,real good at firing under stress and pressure, or its a H&K lol
 
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With bird shot he might live. with OO buck... he might be recognizable as a human LOL.also bird shot is steel....OO buck is lead. Its heavier and there will be no doubt the OO buck would stop any type of forward advancement. i prefer the normal stock and firing from the shoulder. Cuz if your inexperienced from firing from the waist you could miss or maybe drop the gun if your not use to the recoil. plus buy one of those florescent sights that light up if there is any type of light present(even moonlight). just put the green dot on the perp and its curtains. Thats what i got on mine. i wouldnt recomend a handgun unless you have night sights,real good at firing under stress and pressure, or its a H&K lol

Have some fun one day and take some shots on clay/mud blocks at 15'. The size of a shot cloud at that distance might be 2" and see what about 500 tiny pellets from a 1 1/2oz load bouncing around inside would do to the idiot who came inside your house. At that distance the energy put on your target is just the same with #7 1/2 as 00 buck. Unless your buying duck/waterfowl loads you can get lead shot all day long. The heavy buckshot greatly increases the chance of hurting your neighboor next door, or your kids down the hall. Any weapon you choose you should be proficient at using and understand it's limits. A long gun is not the thing to have running down the halls/doorways of a house trying to put space between you and the intruder. A defensive position is much safer than an offensive position. Let the guy try to close in on you, don't hunt them down unless they are between you and undefended loved ones. A short shotgun held at the hip provides much less of a handle for someone to grab and is much harder to remove than that long barrel held way away from your body. Any gun that you don't know how to use can increase the chance of getting you killed. A small woman can control a shotgun from the hip with a little practice and put lead in a body mass target consistently within a couple of boxes of shells. I will agree with you on the light. A mounted high power LED flashlight works as a great "laser" sight when your pumping out the rounds.
 
I don't live in Atlanta, but a home security system from a local provider should run around 600 - 800 $ for wireless contacts and a couple of motion detectors. They'll just take the old panel out and throw it away..it's probably not worth anything either. Monitoring should cost 20-40 a month, if you're going to be able to maintain the system yourself should anything go wrong, you can get monitoring for about 10 bucks a month....

oh ya, a loud dog and lots of lights wouldn't hurt either...
 
Deadly force is not always necessary. Just tell your wife to put two in the ceiling when someone comes up the stairs and I doubt the intruder will continue. If he does, she's already exercised her trigger finger and will be practiced up on utilizing the remaining 10 rounds.

Either way, if an intruder makes it to your wife it most likely will not matter whether he is armed with common household goods, whatever he brought, or the firearm that your wife hands him.

If on his way to your wife's room he picked up your brand new Wustof Santoku knife from the kitchen about the only thing that will stop him will be the firearm. Certainly not the security lighting or dog.

In my opinion having 5 lines of defense is key. Although the last line of defense is much more important than the first.


Deadly force isnt always necessary? You breach my front door, you are gonna die. Period.
 
Deadly force isnt always necessary? You breach my front door, you are gonna die. Period.

What I meant to backup was the overwhelming effectiveness that having a gun in the house can have on deterring the intruder from continuing his intrusion. Like people jokingly say about how an intruder can recognize the racking of a shotgun slide, there is no way an intruder will miss hearing the sound of gunfire coming his direction.
 
I'm no anti gun guy. I own a bunch of them. However, criminology and law enforcement studies prove over and over that you are more likely to die from your own gun then shoot the bad guy if you don't have the proper training.

Giving your wife a gun and telling her to use it is a bad idea unless your wife has experience.

You're much better getting a good security system, lights, and even a dog.

Or best of all move to a better area if you're worried about your safety!
 

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