Gulfstream Airlines

[se1776]

I was down in the Bahamas we were waiting for our passangers to arrive when a beech 1900 pull into the ramp.


About 10 minutes later I saw the first officer wondering around and I walk up to him and ask him about the company and the training cost he told me that "he" is paying $29,000 for 250 hrs and that his total time was 150hrs.

My question is why would anybody pay $29,000 to work for an airline

 

[chperplt]

And this folks is why FI will never change.....

 

[SkyBoy1981]

And my question is why does a G-IV Captain really care one way or the other?

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

I say this will go to six pages.

 

[Rerouted]

Sounds like our GIV friend is enjoying fanning some flames.

 

[Flyer1015]

and that his total time was 150hrs.

You post was believable up until this time. No one can get a Commercial certificate with just 150 hours, not under Part 61, nor 141.

Nothing to see here...

 

[atlcrashpad]

You post was believable up until this time. No one can get a Commercial certificate with just 150 hours, not under Part 61, nor 141.

Nothing to see here...

Oh contrarry mon frarry... you can does anyfing you wants ta on FI.com...... I know a dude dat dun flew a Space Shuttle and is now a 777 Captain fo a Majer Aeroline....... Is you saying his profile is BS? Bouyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....

 

[pgcfii2002]

Somehow I see this turning into a PFT argument........

 

[VxClimb]

my question is if you have been a member since sept. 03, havent you seen this same exact question posted over and over again?

 

[Rerouted]

I actually know this guy. He had an unfortunate incident involving the director of flight training at a local flight school that rendered him unable to bend, kneel or sit down properly. This makes him very uncomfortable when sitting in front of a computer...hence he comes up with things like you read above. Cut him some slack, in a few years he'll be all healed up and back to normal.

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

PFT is just wrong.

 

[time builder]

My question is why would anybody pay $29,000 to work for an airline

Why would anyone pay over $100K? That's what it takes to get a commercial certificate these days at many institutions.

Ideally, the airlines would pay for everything from private on. Heck, even trucking companies will pay for employees to get a CDL, but we have to pay for our own commercial ticket.

Why stop criticizing the industry at Gulfstream, when we could extend it to those participating in bridge programs, and paying for their own certificates and ratings? This goes for the WN hopefuls and their type ratings too.

I'm no choir child, not that I'd fly for Gulfstream, Vision, CAT, or any other airline that has their employees pay for training into a required postion where the competition pays the bill, but I really think there's more to this than just blaming the industry's problems soley on those who've crossed the line by footing the airline training bill.

 

[CX880]

Why would anyone pay over $100K? That's what it takes to get a commercial certificate these days at many institutions.

Ideally, the airlines would pay for everything from private on. Heck, even trucking companies will pay for employees to get a CDL, but we have to pay for our own commercial ticket.

Why stop criticizing the industry at Gulfstream, when we could extend it to those participating in bridge programs, and paying for their own certificates and ratings? This goes for the WN hopefuls and their type ratings too.

I'm no choir child, not that I'd fly for Gulfstream, Vision, CAT, or any other airline that has their employees pay for training into a required postion where the competition pays the bill, but I really think there's more to this than just blaming the industry's problems soley on those who've crossed the line by footing the airline training bill.

First of all the idea that airlines should pay for your ratings is idiotic. Don't know where you got that idea. The day there are no airline pilots availabe is the day airlines will produce their own pilots. Second of all regardles of who's paying what, these gulfstream guys are paying the company for a job. That's the major difference. You can't compare 100K flight training, although I think that's majorly retarded, and people who buy a type rating. They're career investments. Still, they are not buying a job.

 

[se1776]

I am sorry I had to cut my story short before.
But going back to this Gulfstream Airline pilot, He was pretty exited about training with this company, He said that he tried MESA training school but that school didn’t offered him any big airplane experience like Gulfstream Airlines does
But as soon he gets the time he will love to fly for these companies
And this was his four choices
GO JETS, MESA, CHAUTAUQUA, and EAGLE
He told me that in another hundred hours I should be ready to fly a shinny jet.
Yeah I now what are you guys thinking.
Where this industry is is going to.
For Mr. Flyer1015
I am aware of the rules, but since you are paying them and they are not investing in you,
I don’t think you need a commercial certificate. Is a flying school your are training so a Private multi-engine pilot can carry people for fun because he is not getting a check from
Gulfstream Airlines. So that’s why I told you that this guy only had 150 hours

 

[Rerouted]

Ah, ummm....yeah.

 

[CoolSidePillow]

Why would anyone pay over $100K? That's what it takes to get a commercial certificate these days at many institutions.

Ideally, the airlines would pay for everything from private on. Heck, even trucking companies will pay for employees to get a CDL, but we have to pay for our own commercial ticket.

Why stop criticizing the industry at Gulfstream, when we could extend it to those participating in bridge programs, and paying for their own certificates and ratings? This goes for the WN hopefuls and their type ratings too.

I'm no choir child, not that I'd fly for Gulfstream, Vision, CAT, or any other airline that has their employees pay for training into a required postion where the competition pays the bill, but I really think there's more to this than just blaming the industry's problems soley on those who've crossed the line by footing the airline training bill.

it states that your position is "above the stratosphere" then your head must be shoved in a black hole circling uranus because you are an ass hat for listing all the gay airplanes you flew.. i hope you walk into a prop

 

[se1776]

I am sorry guys I just need it to share this with all of you. I didn't mean to upset anyone

 

[The_Russian]

se1776,

You're on fire, dude! :angryfire

 

[On Your Six]

What does it cost to fly the Brasilia???? Are the captains long-term employees who started by paying for training? I heard about a few ex-Indy pilots getting into the left seat on their 1900s (they clearly had the required hours). Flying a Brasilia around the Bahamas (without paying for it) wouldn't be so bad...

 

[se1776]

I guess this is how they pass their checkride http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-bFlJ771pg