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720persecond

720persecond

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Any Airtran pilot can confirm that you are still charging 25.00 for the second jumpseater ?

No flamebait please, it is an honest question
 
It totally depends on the gate agent...But, yes, the policy is still to charge $25.00, but, if your not sitting in the jumpseat, its not consdered a jumpseat, its considered an off line non rev pass... So, if the flight is full and your sitting in the jumpseat, you will not be charged...
 
gt1900 said:
It totally depends on the gate agent...But, yes, the policy is still to charge $25.00, but, if your not sitting in the jumpseat, its not consdered a jumpseat, its considered an off line non rev pass... So, if the flight is full and your sitting in the jumpseat, you will not be charged...
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Ok, thanks for the quick answer.

Last week, an Airtran Captain told me this 25.00 nonsense was supposed to be history. Wonder what's the official policy, with so many different opinions
 
'bout 2 years ago I got dinged for $35. Did they lower it or did I get my money stolen twice at the same time?
 
This has been covered many times. There is no charge to ride the actual jumpseat, whether there is one installed, or two. One or two offline jumpseaters will ride accordingly.

If someone else beats you to the jumpseat, and there is an empty seat in the cabin, they will sell you a walk up pass for $25. Period.
 
Ty Webb said:
This has been covered many times. There is no charge to ride the actual jumpseat, whether there is one installed, or two. One or two offline jumpseaters will ride accordingly.

If someone else beats you to the jumpseat, and there is an empty seat in the cabin, they will sell you a walk up pass for $25. Period.
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Ty,

I thought after going CASS, Airtran would consider all of us jumpseaters
 
Whine.. I'm pretty sure its just like AAI's non-dress attire.. Basically, if your business cassual youl be safe.. And no you don't need to be cass approved to ride in the back in an open seat..
 
svcta said:
'bout 2 years ago I got dinged for $35. Did they lower it or did I get my money stolen twice at the same time?
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Pretty sure that it is $25 plus the taxes/fees. Last time I rode out of ATL it was a total of $28. That has been about a year though.

Mike
 
It's very much hit or miss with the gate agents. I've ridden several times and been "charged" the fee and when I go to pay it the gate agent hands me a ticket that says "paid" and no money ever exchanges hands. Just remember, it's a southern company, manners go a long way. Good luck.
Also, don't expect this policy to change until after the contract is settled (at the earliest). They will not be wasting negotiating capital on this until other carriers start charging thier pilots, which (hopefully) will never happen.

-Blucher

PS-This is not a dig at Airtran pilots, many of you are my friends and I too would be embarrassed about this policy, as I know y'all are.
 
The 25 bucks (27-ish with taxes), though technically standard practice for AirTran CS agents, is unofficially gate agent discretion. It's a huge pain in their butt to stop down, change screens, and deal with that slow credit card auth. system AirTran uses. It was much easier to just list and print out a boarding receipt.

I mentioned in another thread something about showing the agent a little love...be it in the form of a Coke, candy, food, and the such. This goes a long way toward getting that 25 bucks waived...at least it did with me when I was at FL. You'll find some militant ones (especially in ATL)...and some that are too new to know any better...but most gate agents at the Tran can be bribed.

So, next time, steal something from the galley of your last leg...throw it in your bag...and negotiate.

Should you have to do this? No. But hey...whatever works...
 
Maybe when our management can fit the pilots into their busy schedule of cooking the books, and buying other airlines. After all we're just pilots. Not the beancounters. There isn't one pilot at Airtran I know who doesn't want this changed. Especially us commuters. This is rediculous and if it was up to us it would have been changed long ago. Can I be any clearer, we do not support this ripoff!
 
Front Office said:
Then maybe we should charge the Air Tran Pilots $25 - $30 and see how fast THEY can get it changed.

This is CRAZY !!!
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Go ahead, numbnutts . . . . after all jumpseats are filled, offer me a walk-up pass for $25. Then put me up in business and get me home. There were plenty of times in the last 5 years I got left behind as a Delta plane taxied off with empty seats and a $25. pass beats a $48. room at the Wellesley every time.

My desire to change the policy has declined greatly over the past few years after reading all the ungrateful S.O.B.'s whining and crying about it. I'm not willing to give up anything in our contract negptiations in exchange for a benefit for people who so clearly won't appreciate it.


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Jumpseats are free but you have to pay a service charge to ride in the back, Big Friggin Deal! They might get it changed but in the meantime ride someone else if you can't pony up the smack.

Years back I got kicked off many United, American, Delta and USAir jumpseats because one of their line pilots showed up at the last minute and booted me from the airplane. I even had some pilots elect to take their own JS just to save their own service charge boot me from the plane a few minutes before departure and not even say they were sorry. I would have loved to have paid a $25 service charge to get on the flight.

ATA has always had the most liberal JS policy around, we believe in leading by example. I'm most thankful for SWA because since they are the 800 lb gorilla these days, they are most responsible for the JS policies changing in the industry.

In short. Thanks AirTran for the lift, you will not be charged to ride in the back on my plane and maybe someday you will change your policy.
 
Ty Webb said:
Go ahead, numbnutts . . . . after all jumpseats are filled, offer me a walk-up pass for $25. Then put me up in business and get me home. There were plenty of times in the last 5 years I got left behind as a Delta plane taxied off with empty seats and a $25. pass beats a $48. room at the Wellesley every time.

My desire to change the policy has declined greatly over the past few years after reading all the ungrateful S.O.B.'s whining and crying about it. I'm not willing to give up anything in our contract negptiations in exchange for a benefit for people who so clearly won't appreciate it.


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management 101 must be working afterall...

jumpseat policies should be moving forward & not backwards. and i really don't think you'd have to give up a dime in negotiations to get the policy changed.

i'm grateful for any ride home. but it just seems silly to charge a guy 1 hr of pay or more for one of the few remaining perks in the business. i guess that's another strike against commuting. it is a choice, afterall.

hopefully things can change going forward. we have a lot of things to improve at Continental as well.

best of luck to AirTran fellas getting the $25 fee removed. we will all be grateful if/when it changes.
 
Management greed! It can not be stated more simply than that.

We're not giving anything up for the removal of this silliness because it never should have been there in the first place.

Many thanks to all the other pilot groups who have not retaliated against us for this as we deal with it in contract negotiations. It will be removed and we will go unlimited jumpseats...as it should be and as it WILL be.
 
Thank God for some level headed guys at AirTran. I guess one post above was just a member of the 10% Club that is alive and well at all companies.
 
Contract said:
Thank God for some level headed guys at AirTran. I guess one post above was just a member of the 10% Club that is alive and well at all companies.
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Actually, it's the ten percent of whining, crying imbeciles that don't understand the difference between a jumpseat (free) and a pass, if the jumpseat is taken.

If you don't understand the difference, when the gate ape tells you that someone already beat you to the jumpseat, just walk away . . . . . you don't need to buy a pass . . . . just walk away.

Our pilots don't like the policy (duh) but complaining to us isn't going to get you anything except sent back up the jetway to get a refund and wait for the next flight.


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Front Office said:
Then maybe we should charge the Air Tran Pilots $25 - $30 and see how fast THEY can get it changed.

This is CRAZY !!!
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Read Tubelcane's post, as he expresses the vast majority of our feelings on this.

AirTran took unlimited Delta pilots even when Delta's policy was to take only 1 offline jumpseater. I don't think AirTran declaring jumpseat war would have done anything positive at all. Your suggestion follows much the same thought process.

Just out of curiousity, where do you stand on a NWA pilot denying JetBlue pilots jumpseats because Jet Blue is "bringing down the industry"?
 

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