Jumpseat Denied

[BLUE BAYOU]

JB is just another People Express, WP, Indy Air, etc.

You can't blame it all on Jetblue. Prior to 9/11 the airline industry was already in a decline. A failed merger between UAL and USAir, AMR lost $500 million in the 2nd quarter of 2001 and that year Jetblue ended with 15 planes and was just a year old-- give me a break, how come you don't bash Spirit for their wages and they even have a union!. Blame your demise on poor managment. Or the way the planets are aligned, I'm tired of your aimless ranting.

 

[Charlie Brown]

I think we can all agree this thread is a waste of time.

We are all pilots here. In some form or another we all have the same issues, trials, and hardships regardless what color our planes are painted. It is truly saddening to me that we treat each other this way. That is the problem with an anonymous board. This childish behavior would not happen if we were all accountable for what is said.

The name calling, bashing, flaming, etc. Grow up.

 

[Purpled]

Let me guess, light gray Eagle driver?

Funny, that's would have been my guess for you too.

 

[CTflyer]

Look dude, this is a circular arguement, the retort to which is that the legacies had to give back due to wage pressure from bar-lowerers. No pension, crappy pay, now code-sharing with foreign carriers...not a good recipe. Nobody wins this arguement, but everybody thinks they did. BTW, I've never denied a j/s or will I ever to a non-scab, sober, non-a$$hole.

Thats absurd FNG....So what you are saying is that if JB or others were not around then the contracts would of stayed in place, meanwhile the tanking economy, 9/11, and SARS was all around...

NEWSFLASH.....In Chap 11 the legacies would of gutted all contracts no matter what...

 

[FNG_that's me]

Thats absurd FNG....So what you are saying is that if JB or others were not around then the contracts would of stayed in place, meanwhile the tanking economy, 9/11, and SARS was all around...

NEWSFLASH.....In Chap 11 the legacies would of gutted all contracts no matter what...

Nope, go back and read it again. What I said was that this was the retort to his side of the story and that it was circular, goes round and round, never ends, etc. But some would insist intently that what you typed is true.

 

[CTflyer]

Nope, go back and read it again. What I said was that this was the retort to his side of the story and that it was circular, goes round and round, never ends, etc. But some would insist intently that what you typed is true.

Alright FNG, I will give you that one. My apologies.......

 

[jimcav]

Out of line? I don't think so. I've never denied a JetBlue jumpseater. Despite all of my complaints about JetBlue, I always allow them to ride. They may have to hear me b!tch about transcon turns or cabin cleaning for a minute or two before I sign the form, but they always get a ride. That being said, it's any Captain's right to refuse the jumpseat to anyone, recip agreement or not.

What a clown.

 

[FNG_that's me]

Alright FNG, I will give you that one. My apologies.......

No autopsy=no foul

 

[Stukadriver]

I agree, however we don't want to go down the road of taking the JS authority out of the hands of the Captain either.

Frankly it would not bother me if JB was banned from all ALPA JS's. Not from a personal standpoint against the pilots, but because much of the damage to the industry was inflicted as a result of the (at the time) lowered bar by JB.

From a NWA perspective none of our bases are in LGA, FLL, or JFK. Other than leisure travel none of our pilots use JB to go to work. On the other hand we are providing thier pilots a free ride to work in order to allow JB to compete against us.

Imagine the world of hurt JB would be in if suddenly none of thier pilots could commute to work. I'm weeping crocodile tears already..... :bomb:

I don't see it that way at all. If JB or anyone else for that matter told their pilots to ride a competitor's jumpseat for crew positioning or any other company business, then that's another matter entirely. If it's just a pilot trying to commute then I'm more than happy to extend a professional courtesy to a fellow pilot. You're not supplementing another airline's business; you're simply enabling a pilot to live somewhere other than his base.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Relax Jetblue. . .Northwest has the most unfavorable jumpseat policy of any US major today for offline jumpseaters.

At least they take more than one and don't charge any money if you are not the first to sign up...

 

[IrishjbPilot]

At least they take more than one and don't charge any money if you are not the first to sign up...

What are you talking about. They dont charge pilots to jumpseat at NWA or JB. You may be thinking of airtran.

 

[FL_Jumpseat]

I've been watching this thread wondering when it would happen...finally...it took six pages before Airtran's jumpseat policy was brought up. I almost had to respond back on page four when someone thought NW had the worst jumpseat policy, but I held my comments.

Dirty Sanchez and Irishjbpilot...Airtran only takes one jumpseater for each jumpseat on the plane. We want to take more, but our management won't let us yet. It has to be negotiated, but I'm not taking any form of a paycut to get you an extra seat in the back.

Oh, by the way, NW now has unlimited jumpseating for everyone which matches the rest of the industry. I suspect Airtran will get it too someday. We were the last major to get CASS, I suspect we'll be the last major to allow unlimited jumpseaters.

If the jumpseats are full though, Airtran management has agreed to sell you a pass at the gate. If you don't want to spend the money, take a different flight.

If anyone has a problem riding on any airline, ask your Jumpseat Coordinator to contact the other one. Yes, we do listen and try to correct the problems.

 

[bestpilot]

At least they take more than one and don't charge any money if you are not the first to sign up...

Ty Guy dun binn tawked bouts dis ole thingee lotza times before, bro.

Look, my brother from some udder sometin or anudder we aint likein it bro, an if ya hates it so bad, then likes dont be strollin on up to da Tranny fer yer lift.

All you udder peeps in da hizzy, jus cmon down an likes we be treatin you like alllllllll goooooooooood! (hopefoolly wittout da $25)


AWWWWW YEAAAAHHHHH!!!

 

[IrishjbPilot]

Um......Huh?

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

Like it or not, often times not, the jumpseat is at the captains discretion.

02-05-07...LGA-MSP, Northwest, had to be 80 to 100 seats open. Two of us going home, Captain denied one of us because one of us didn't have an ALPA card. I am amazed this crap is still going on.