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DougsRule

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Just wondering...

How many have been hired so far? (Congrats to those who have!)

When is the next interview scheduled for?

What is the total number to be hired?

Thanks,
 
Where have you seen the 400 for next year posted? I have not seen anything about '08. Thanks.

800:
Somebody tossed it around, and I have heard it from several other sources.....
You know, the CP's secretary told the janitor who heard it from the vice president of...........
Take it for what its worth.

737
 
How is the age 60 to 65 rule gonna affect the hiring number for the next couple years?

Age 60 won't affect us much because most of the older, more senior pilots have already gone. Most of the hiring now is due to growth.
Here is a list of the retirements over the next 10 years.
You'll see that most of the heavy retirements don't really start for another 5-7 years.

2007-29
2008-60
2009-70
2010-91
2011-130
2012-159
2013-220
2014-265
2015-333
2016-474
2017-556

737
 
Legacies, Military, Regionals, AirTran
 
What do you mean age 60 won't affect you much. If it goes to 65, your retirement list will look like this:

2007-0
2008-0
2009-0
2010-0
2011-0
2012-29
2013-60
2014-70
2015-91
2016-130
2017-159
2018-220
2019-265
2020-333
2021-474
2022-556

Age 60 won't affect us much because most of the older, more senior pilots have already gone. Most of the hiring now is due to growth.
Here is a list of the retirements over the next 10 years.
You'll see that most of the heavy retirements don't really start for another 5-7 years.

2007-29
2008-60
2009-70
2010-91
2011-130
2012-159
2013-220
2014-265
2015-333
2016-474
2017-556

737
 
What do you mean age 60 won't affect you much. If it goes to 65, your retirement list will look like this:

2007-0
2008-0
2009-0
2010-0
2011-0
2012-29
2013-60
2014-70
2015-91
2016-130
2017-159
2018-220
2019-265
2020-333
2021-474
2022-556

It will affect every airline. End of discussion.
 
I just spoke to a fellow that I had recommended for a pilot job at Delta (He was hired for the first class that started today). He tells me that there are 8 people in the first class. He thinks that one is a former military guy, several from ASA, a couple from AirTran and the other one or two were from other commuters. All former captains with several thousand hours in turbojets and quite a bit of PIC time. Supposed to be 40 in the next class. BTW, if the age 65 rule comes to pass, it will be at least 18 months to two years coming, and not all will want to stay around that long. I quit at 57 1/2 and was quite happy to do it.
 
Correction to my last post. 10 in the current class, supposed to be 14, but 4 didn`t show up. 9 got the MD 88, one the 737-800. Don`t know where they will be based. Supposed to be 40 next month, maybe two classes of 20 each. Good luck to all....
 
Where have you seen the 400 for next year posted? I have not seen anything about '08. Thanks.

I don't think there is an official number out for new hires in 2008 yet, but I would not be surprised to see at least 400 new hires in '08. A rough wag on the numbers would be 2% growth = approx. 130 pilots + 79 retirements + approx. 100 pilots who leave after cashing in the claim and the note + 50 LTD ( less than 1% of pilot group LTD each year) + appoximately 50 pilots due to increased pilot needs as the company continues to grow international flying (I believe DAL takes delivery of at least 2 777LRs in'08). That's just a very rough wag at the numbers, but 400+ in '08 is more likely than not.
 
I don't think there is an official number out for new hires in 2008 yet, but I would not be surprised to see at least 400 new hires in '08. A rough wag on the numbers would be 2% growth = approx. 130 pilots + 79 retirements + approx. 100 pilots who leave after cashing in the claim and the note + 50 LTD ( less than 1% of pilot group LTD each year) + appoximately 50 pilots due to increased pilot needs as the company continues to grow international flying (I believe DAL takes delivery of at least 2 777LRs in'08). That's just a very rough wag at the numbers, but 400+ in '08 is more likely than not.

Can I have a hit off that?
 
100 pilots leaving after the claim is pretty extreme...sounds like all the "mass exodus FO resignations" we heard about last year....and what, 15 left?

If someone stays for the claim, they'll stay for the note, then they'll stay for the profit sharing, they'll stay for the raise... etc. etc. Before you know it, "well, I was thinking about leaving but...."

Just like all my Captains going to Emirates....
 
Correction to my last post. 10 in the current class, supposed to be 14, but 4 didn`t show up. 9 got the MD 88, one the 737-800. Don`t know where they will be based. Supposed to be 40 next month, maybe two classes of 20 each. Good luck to all....

Just curious, the four who didnt show up....are they planning to go into the next class or just decided they didnt want to take the job?
 
...heard some guys in the crew lounge (asa) talking about a "filter" big D used involving total flight time. I didn't hear the low end...but they said the upper end was about 5500hrs. All others aren't considered at the moment.

anyone...anyone???
 
Just curious, the four who didnt show up....are they planning to go into the next class or just decided they didnt want to take the job?

I do know of at least one hicup during the medical part... still has a conditional offer and is planning on being in class but needs to get some stuff taken care of first.
 
...heard some guys in the crew lounge (asa) talking about a "filter" big D used involving total flight time. I didn't hear the low end...but they said the upper end was about 5500hrs. All others aren't considered at the moment.

anyone...anyone???

Haven't heard that and do know of 1 person with an interview with more time then that. Besides... flight ops said the average flight time was around 5500 so unless everybody has that, that means for every lower time person they hire there's a higher time person to average it out.
 
...heard some guys in the crew lounge (asa) talking about a "filter" big D used involving total flight time. I didn't hear the low end...but they said the upper end was about 5500hrs. All others aren't considered at the moment.

anyone...anyone???

I have more than 5500tt and 1 LOR but no interview yet.
 
Here is what I know for sure (facts):
8 in first class
1 turned down the first class date to give ASA 2 weeks notice...idiot!
1 person had medical issue but were resolved last week and is in 1st class
80% hire rate. Most aren´t passing the cognitive test, including one military guy
total time of one guy was roughly 5000 with less than 1000 PIC
next class is on the 19th.
I personally know 6 ASA pilots that have interviewed. 1 in 1 out others don´t know
2 ex ASA pilots now at Airtran have interviewed...one got it other don´t know.
All old gouge on DAL hiring is spot on, so study all you can find.

Good Luck

Cheers
 
100 pilots leaving after the claim is pretty extreme...sounds like all the "mass exodus FO resignations" we heard about last year....and what, 15 left?

If someone stays for the claim, they'll stay for the note, then they'll stay for the profit sharing, they'll stay for the raise... etc. etc. Before you know it, "well, I was thinking about leaving but...."

Just like all my Captains going to Emirates....

There's quite a bit of money on the table with the note and the claim, both of which will be paid out in '08. 100 pilots is not at all too extreme. That's just only about 1.5% of DAL pilots. What was the by-pass rate? I'm not saying that we will see a mass exodus, but 1%-2% is not unrealistic. Quite a few will take the money and move on to greener pastures. Believe me, there are greener pastures for some depending on their personal circumstance.
 
There's quite a bit of money on the table with the note and the claim, both of which will be paid out in '08. 100 pilots is not at all too extreme. That's just only about 1.5% of DAL pilots. What was the by-pass rate? I'm not saying that we will see a mass exodus, but 1%-2% is not unrealistic. Quite a few will take the money and move on to greener pastures. Believe me, there are greener pastures for some depending on their personal circumstance.

I think the claim will be paid out in '07.
 
I think the claim will be paid out in '07.

and the note in '08. Sorry for the confusion, I should have said the note and the claim will be paid out by '08. The claim should be paid out in '07 and the note 6-12 month after BK exit.
 
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