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FADECtoBLACK

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Saw a bunch of Saab 340's in NW Airlink paint parked up at Millington (KNQA north of Memphis) the other day.

Just wondering if anyone knew what they were slated for.
 
They were previously operated by Mesaba, but owned by Pinnacle. Since the relations between the companies are so great ( read: Uncle Phil HATES mesaba ) Pinnacle mgt would rather thay sit and rust rather then let Mesaba lease them back. They were pulled per NWA's cutting back in Mesaba's flying. The rumor is that PCL might try to operate them again but who knows if that will ever happen with the 1113c filing of XJ and NWA still in process.
 
Those planes are turds! We have A models built in the 80's that were more reliable and flew better than those B's built in 92. Prolly has something to do with falling a ditch.
 
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Mysteryofflight said:
The rumor is that PCL might try to operate them again but who knows if that will ever happen with the 1113c filing of XJ and NWA still in process.

I doubt that.
 
"Pinnacle mgt would rather thay sit and rust rather then let Mesaba lease them back"

I really doubt Mesaba treid to renegotiate a lower lease on the B-minus's. I think it was more like " Here Take you POS airplanes back now, Thank You". They sucked, I think that some of our A's ( even some of the ones that are gone ) are more reliable than some of our B+'s much less those Killer B's. They looked great when we got them, but I think it was more like dressing a W--r- in a wedding dress.
 
I'd rather dispatch a fleet of Saabs than a fleet of CRJ's any day. Saabs are tanks. CRJ's are barbie dolls dressed up like airplanes.
 
flyn96 said:
Those planes are turds! We have A models built in the 80's that were more reliable and flew better than those B's built in 92. Prolly has something to do with falling a ditch.


Crappy airplanes or not they keep pilots employed when they are operating.
 
Ouch! But, you're right...

MM
 
405 said:
I'd rather dispatch a fleet of Saabs than a fleet of CRJ's any day. Saabs are tanks. CRJ's are barbie dolls dressed up like airplanes.


Just a simple observation based off your avatars; 405, a XJ dispatcher, is telling XJWRENCH, a XJ mx, which XJ aircraft are more reliable. Sounds pretty arrogant to me.

I agree with XJWRENCH. The returning of the B's was not PNL taking them away from XJ. Actually, I really don't think it had anything to do with XJ's and PNL's relationship at all. As always, NW controls everything. They told us to return the B's to PNL, and so we did.
 
DoinTime said:
Crappy airplanes or not they keep pilots employed when they are operating.

With all the city pairs in DTW that were taken away from the Saab over the last four years, you're right. We only had to furlough a few pilots when XJ started retiring the 20 some A's and took over the straight B's.
 
We lease those saabs from a delware bank. because we are not in chapter 11 we are not able to renegotiate those lease paymants that we pay. so we could not renegotiate the payments with mesaba. its our loss, but they are looking for another carrier for them, but the payments are high on them so no takers yet.
 
IHateMgmt said:
Just a simple observation based off your avatars; 405, a XJ dispatcher, is telling XJWRENCH, a XJ mx, which XJ aircraft are more reliable. Sounds pretty arrogant to me.

Arrogant? You made the assumption yourself that I am telling XJWRENCH about his job. That is not the case at all.

When I dispatched the Saab B models at 9E, they seemed pretty reliable. That's all I was saying.
 
When I dispatched the Saab B models at 9E, they seemed pretty reliable. That's all I was saying.

Saabs at 9E reliable??? From a dispatcher perspective I can fathom that but the fact is that they were all broken all the time and nobody cared.
 
DoinTime said:
Saabs at 9E reliable??? From a dispatcher perspective I can fathom that but the fact is that they were all broken all the time and nobody cared.

I never flew them so you would know better than I would. They APPEARED to be decent airplanes. Guess I was wrong.
 
I drove up to NQA a few days ago and all of the PX Saab's were there just sitting on the ramp half wrapped up for storage. I'm sure no one cares. I just thought I'd post it.
 
so how many are there? We only have 3 of the saabs with the "PX" tail numbers around the property. How many are left?
 
so how many are there? We only have 3 of the saabs with the "PX" tail numbers around the property. How many are left?

Theres about 4 or 5 more parked in Millington outside of the 3 that colgan already has on property...I flew in the last one we took out of there and got a good look around...atleast 2 of the ones that were on the tarmac had parts mising (Props, engine, etc)
 

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