CO Pilot Captain dies on takeoff

[PBRstreetgang]

positive reinforcement for age 60

Leessee,
Current regs say less than age 60, dead pilot less than 60. Plane did not crash when he died, 65ers are gonna use this to support their position. You have the mad debating skills of my Lab. he is only 3, but keep trying though.
PBR

 

[MD80DRVR]

What about the 35 year old overweight, out of shape pilots I've seen who look like they've never exercised a day in their lives. I've seen some who looked ready to collapse after the walk-around.

Age is by no means the controlling factor in health and fitness both mental and physical.

Agreed! My wonderful Mother is 65+ and still runs marathons. She does spinning 6 days a week and lifts weights 3 days a week. She could probably out-run most of us here. When I walk around our crew room, I see numerous pilots both male and female who are ticking time bombs. 300+lb slobs......... who are an embarrasment to this profession. Point is that it doesn't matter how old you are, some people are health conscious and some aren't.

 

[Freight Dog]

My deepest sympathies to the family and friends of our brother who has flown west.

This just shows that we should enjoy our life to the fullest each and every day as we never know when we may take that final flight west.

 

[beechball23]

Why dont you guys take the age 60 argument to a different thread. We just lost a fellow aviator....show some respect.

dk

Amen.

God Speed, My friend.

 

[Andy]

My condolences to both his immediate family and his Continental family.

I ask that, out of respect for those he left behind, we only leave condolences on this thread. His friends and relatives could easily be reading this board.


Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

 

[skydan5]

positive reinforcement for age 60

There you go flapping your lips again. Have something nice to say for a change, like my condolences for the Captain's loved ones.

 

[Britpilot]

positive reinforcement for age 60

Scum.

 

[El Pobre]

Really now......

In all reality, how many of us here have our "friends and family" reading this moronic board... I read it for a good laugh and to pass time when laying over...I'm fairly certain that my lovely wife and the rest of my friends have better things to do with their time.

As for the age 60 thing.....let's get over it...all the age 65 proponents (who are clearly discriminating against 70 year olds) don't want to offend this particular pilots family and friends but wish his family well.....they sure don't give a rats *** about the family of the pilot who has been furloughed since 2001 or the young pilot making 20k at ASA.....

As to the guy who asked about the life expectancy of pilots...I saw some acutarial tables a few years ago that are used for insurance purposes.....the life expectancy of a pilot working until 65 was 66.5 and it went up 2.5 years for every year that you stopped working before age 65. I wish I had kept the table...because it sure made an impression on me and is a big reason why I care not to work after 60.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

As to the guy who asked about the life expectancy of pilots...I saw some acutarial tables a few years ago that are used for insurance purposes.....the life expectancy of a pilot working until 65 was 66.5 and it went up 2.5 years for every year that you stopped working before age 65. I wish I had kept the table...because it sure made an impression on me and is a big reason why I care not to work after 60.

You know I've heard a joke that pilot's retire at 60 and die at 61.

 

[bubbers44]

As for the age 60 thing.....let's get over it...all the age 65 proponents (who are clearly discriminating against 70 year olds) don't want to offend this particular pilots family and friends but wish his family well.....they sure don't give a rats *** about the family of the pilot who has been furloughed since 2001 or the young pilot making 20k at ASA.....


And what is the connection???????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[CAL EWR B737]

My condolences to both his immediate family and his Continental family.

I ask that, out of respect for those he left behind, we only leave condolences on this thread. His friends and relatives could easily be reading this board.


Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

I agree 100% nice post.

 

[CFIT]

300+lb slobs......... who are an embarrasment to this profession.

Ya, well I may be fat but you are ugly and I can diet.


BTW can you post pictures of your "hot" mom?

 

[MJG]

RE: Average age of death for 121 pilot

I'm fairly sure a couple years ago there was an article in the ALPA magazine that quoted a study of retired FedEx pilots. For that particular group the average age of death was 65. Now obviously the lifestyle of a FedEx pilot may or may not be similar to say that of a Southwest guy, just depends on what kind of flying they do I suppose.

But one thing is for certain, in most people, this job will take years off of your life, how many exactly is hard to say and it certainly will vary from one pilot to the next.

All we can do is take the best care of ourselves that we can and try to eat right and exercise when we get a chance. But I'll be the first to admit that planning to do these things and actually doing these things rarely coincide.

Again my condolences to the pilot's family. It's so hard when you don't even get a chance to say goodbye. I can only hope that he died doing something that made him happy.

 

[V1Cutt]

At least have the courtesy to wait for facts.

Next time I'll wait for Miles O'brien's report on CNN, instead of relying on someone who actually knew the poor fellow and was in the same base/seat and had the official info from the CP's office.
If my facts are wrong, you are welcome to flame me.

My condolences to his family and friends.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I'm fairly sure a couple years ago there was an article in the ALPA magazine that quoted a study of retired FedEx pilots. For that particular group the average age of death was 65. Now obviously the lifestyle of a FedEx pilot may or may not be similar to say that of a Southwest guy, just depends on what kind of flying they do I suppose.

But one thing is for certain, in most people, this job will take years off of your life, how many exactly is hard to say and it certainly will vary from one pilot to the next.

All we can do is take the best care of ourselves that we can and try to eat right and exercise when we get a chance. But I'll be the first to admit that planning to do these things and actually doing these things rarely coincide.

It is my understanding as well that career airline pilots have shortened life expectancies. Taking it a little further, what do you think most of this is attributed to. Things like the sedentary nature, sleep cycles, stress, personality, poor diet, solar radiation, recycled air, partial pressure changes, etc.


.

 

[skiandsurf]

It is my understanding as well that career airline pilots have shortened life expectancies. Taking it a little further, what do you think most of this is attributed to. Things like the sedentary nature, sleep cycles, stress, personality, poor diet, solar radiation, recycled air, partial pressure changes, etc.


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I grew up on a cul-de-sac in So Cal.

My neighbors were this...
1. cop (smoker) 8 yrs younger than my dad. Now at 65, he is in real bad health.

2. cop (smoker) 5 yrs younger. DIED at age 64.
3. My dad. Pilot (non-smoker). 73 yrs old, holds a first class medical and still flies 737s.
4. Business owner (smoker). DIED at age 55.
5. Business man. (non-smoker). 7 yrs older than my dad. Plays golf everyday.
6. Business man. (smoker). 3 yrs younger. DIED at 69.

According to my unofficial study, being a pilot has nothing to do with early death, but smoking is a big factor.

 

[Freight Dog]

There are plenty of threads to discuss Age 60, but please use this one to post condolences.

 

[Flopgut]

I grew up on a cul-de-sac in So Cal.

My neighbors were this...
1. cop (smoker) 8 yrs younger than my dad. Now at 65, he is in real bad health.

2. cop (smoker) 5 yrs younger. DIED at age 64.
3. My dad. Pilot (non-smoker). 73 yrs old, holds a first class medical and still flies 737s.
4. Business owner (smoker). DIED at age 55.
5. Business man. (non-smoker). 7 yrs older than my dad. Plays golf everyday.
6. Business man. (smoker). 3 yrs younger. DIED at 69.

According to my unofficial study, being a pilot has nothing to do with early death, but smoking is a big factor.

Smoking is bad? Wow, nice work!

 

[SDF2BUF2MCO]

According to my unofficial study, being a pilot has nothing to do with early death, but smoking is a big factor.

Allegedly the Japanese smoke like chimnies yet they have a longer live expectancy. Diet perhaps?

 

[larryiah]

This is just speculation, but I bet those venda-matic cheese burgers we serve in coach that find their way up to cockpit doesn't help things.

Neither does the chocolate cake, big boy.uke:

 

[Apache06]

My sentiments

Why dont you guys take the age 60 argument to a different thread. We just lost a fellow aviator....show some respect.

dk

My sentiments exactly Deerkiller.

 

[Kugelblitz]

Neither does the chocolate cake, big boy.uke:

Lay off the chocolate cake pal!!! And besides, my mother says I am big boned, not fat.

 

[Kugelblitz]

I'm fairly sure a couple years ago there was an article in the ALPA magazine that quoted a study of retired FedEx pilots. For that particular group the average age of death was 65. Now obviously the lifestyle of a FedEx pilot may or may not be similar to say that of a Southwest guy, just depends on what kind of flying they do I suppose.

But one thing is for certain, in most people, this job will take years off of your life, how many exactly is hard to say and it certainly will vary from one pilot to the next.

All we can do is take the best care of ourselves that we can and try to eat right and exercise when we get a chance. But I'll be the first to admit that planning to do these things and actually doing these things rarely coincide.

Again my condolences to the pilot's family. It's so hard when you don't even get a chance to say goodbye. I can only hope that he died doing something that made him happy.

There is a great deal of data about high altitude radiation exposure that is not readily available for public consumption. The gist of it as I understand it is that any time we go above FL250 we really start to absorb the Roentgens and if you fly high at night (same amount of radiation but less atmosphere above you due to cooling compression) we are really getting lit up.

Eat smart, exercise, and take your free-radical removal supplements like Beta Carotene and CO Enzyme Q 10 (Co Q10). When/if we ever start any deep space manned missions beyond the effect of earths protective magnetic field (eg. Mars, and beyond, the moon is actually under earths magnetic field effects) NASA will require their astronauts to take a daily regiment of supplements to aid their bodies in free radical removal.

Of course, eating lots of leafy, dark green vegetables helps. And for cying out loud, stay away from the Continental Cheese Burgers!!!!

Quiz to follow.