You really don't look professional in your leather jacket

[Fins Up]

Try this: Dress for your airline job interview in a leather jacket...

Rut row!

Try this: Dress for your interview in your current company's uniform. I saw that happen once.

 

[Morning Wood]

Try this. Show up and tell them how much the pay and benefits suck, the schedules suck, the CEO is Lorenzo Jr, and the Chief Pilot is an ***********************************. Good luck with your interview.

 

[PCL_128]

Function over fashion

You can have both. The long trench coat is much more functional than that ridiculous leather eyesore. The trench coat covers you down past the knees. The leather only covers from the waist up. When I'm preflighting a plane in Halifax in the middle of January, I'd prefer for my legs to be warm also.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

The pioneer Air Line Pilots wore leather.

Pan Am pilots didn't have stripes on thier sleeves. They wore hats to signify rank and postion.

I think the stripes look rediculous. Walking down the terminal we look like Micheal Jackson arriving in Narita!

Fact is with the leather jacket, more and more airlines are adopting them as uniform options or standard. UAL, AMR, CAL, NWA, FedEx, even UPS has brown leather....

Change is here....

I haven't heard of any bonifide gripe from the passengers the leather is bad. Besides I thought the pax didn't care....

So more airlines adopt the leather and the pax don't care.... sounds like some people aren't moving along with the industry.....

 

[Puck Mugger]

First off--- yes this is flame.

But really ----especially if you wear a blue pants.... You do not look like a professional. You do not look like someone who is ready to command a respectable pay-scale at the bargaining table.

There have been many books written on how to dress for success, and I am pretty sure that you would be hard pressed to find the section: How to command respect from the world while wearing a leather bomber jacket with a flexi-fit bottom.

I, for one, feel that how we present ourselves impacts what type of results we get at the negotiating table..... I know, I know, here comes the part where someone points out that SWA guys make a bunch of money (for a post 9\11 world). Well, they also have never had any set backs financially, and I would attribute this more to their management than to their Leather Jackets.

Yes, I did in fact start this thread to flame bait you......But I also think you look silly.:uzi:

Do any of the CNCs out there wear the leather jacket at the negotiating table?

 

[Double Shot]

You can have both. The long trench coat is much more functional than that ridiculous leather eyesore. The trench coat covers you down past the knees. The leather only covers from the waist up. When I'm preflighting a plane in Halifax in the middle of January, I'd prefer for my legs to be warm also.

The trench coat looks stupid. What do you have a couple of 12 guage shotguns under that coat you are trying to hide. It also looks as if you are trying to be in a old cowboy western. Hell why dont you put on some spurs to go with that trench coat cowboy.

 

[Whine Lover]

The trenchcoat looks so much more Professional.

I have only been mistaken for a perv who's about to whip his unit out....765,010,403 times so far.

End of Discussion.

YKW

 

[Falconjet]

I don't really care if you think I look professional.

How about them apples?

FJ

 

[B-atch]

You can have both. The long trench coat is much more functional than that ridiculous leather eyesore. The trench coat covers you down past the knees. The leather only covers from the waist up. When I'm preflighting a plane in Halifax in the middle of January, I'd prefer for my legs to be warm also.

Ok Dick Tracy, you can wear a thong if you care to, but don't RAGG on my leathers. Besides in the freightdog world, I have yet to see anyone wearing trenchcoats...

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

First off--- yes this is flame.

But really ----especially if you wear a blue pants.... You do not look like a professional. You do not look like someone who is ready to command a respectable pay-scale at the bargaining table.

There have been many books written on how to dress for success, and I am pretty sure that you would be hard pressed to find the section: How to command respect from the world while wearing a leather bomber jacket with a flexi-fit bottom.

I, for one, feel that how we present ourselves impacts what type of results we get at the negotiating table..... I know, I know, here comes the part where someone points out that SWA guys make a bunch of money (for a post 9\11 world). Well, they also have never had any set backs financially, and I would attribute this more to their management than to their Leather Jackets.

Yes, I did in fact start this thread to flame bait you......But I also think you look silly.:uzi:

You must be the guy I see at restaurants on overnights wearing a trenchcoat with jeans and bright white tennis shoes looking at their watch trying to finish a beer because it is 12:05 until their show time...TOOL

 

[Mach 80]

More than what coats pilots wear and the impression they make......how about some of the really stupid stickers I see on some flight bags. I have seen

1. "Crashing sucks". (Oh, thanks for telling us - we didn't know. Why would a pilot have that on thoier flight bag for the public to see. I guess he thinks it's funny.

2. Various stickers from unions with some sort of cute motto that the public is baffled and confused by.

3. Various political stickers (why put on a flight bag?)

4. "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going". The passenger at that pilot's airline who happens to be getting on one of their Airbusses is wondering what the pilot knows that he doesn't.

5. ..a bunch more stupid stickers that you guys can add to the list that only serve as an embarrassment to pilots in general.

Here's one -- I saw a pilot in his nice little traditional uniform and Ralph Kramden hat, carrying a backpack....with a skate board sticking out of it.

 

[canyonblue]

First off... I have never taken a cut in pay.

You would have to be employed for that, and I doubt that you are.

 

[glasspilot1]

More than what coats pilots wear and the impression they make......how about some of the really stupid stickers I see on some flight bags. I have seen

1. "Crashing sucks".

2. Various stickers from unions with some sort of cute motto that the public is baffled and confused by.

3. Various political stickers (why put on a flight bag?)

4. "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going"....

Oh, this could be a good thread!

"I will work for hundreds of thousands of dollars" (Old sticker from before 9/11)

All kinds of "Jesus" stickers. (Just what the public wants to see on their pilots bag.)

 

[Occam's Razor]

Seen in DTW: "I Gained 30 Pounds! Ask me How!"

In FLL: "My Other Bag Is Worse"

Somewhere else: "Are We There Yet?"

 

[Benhuntn]

If you need a trench coat to do a walk around in Halifax you are a wussy. I did walk-arounds in Minot for 3 yrs with just a flt. suit. I was too poor for a coat. I still have all my fingers a toes too.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

If you need a trench coat to do a walk around in Halifax you are a wussy. I did walk-arounds in Minot for 3 yrs with just a flt. suit. I was too poor for a coat. I still have all my fingers a toes too.

Yeah but the ramp van followed you around and everytime you wanted to warm up you got in and were served hot cocoa.... Sure it took you 35 mins to do a walk around but your ascot looked great!

 

[Fins Up]

Preflights in Iceland during the winter. No trench coat. What's a ramp van? Leather flight jacket was just fine. Never really thought it degraded my professionalism any.

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

I go from the hotel to the cargo ramp, then to the airplane. Then on the other side of the trip I go from the airplane to the hotel van. If I wear the leather, is that OK?

Im just a freight dog.

I dont think that effects my union negotiations at all.

This is a serious question back at you, I would like to know your view, thanks for the responce.

Don't you know Cargo pilots aren't real professionals.

 

[Benhuntn]

I am not sure where you saw ramp vans following military guys on walk-arounds but it wasn't at any unit I worked at. I am sure it was something you imagined while on peyote or smoked salmon in Halifax

 

[Crossky]

All kinds of "Jesus" stickers. (Just what the public wants to see on their pilots bag.)

You never know, it depends on what corner of the country you're in. And why, for fear that they might try to preach to them? (although I know one of yours tried it once). My JESUS sticker is better than your DARWIN sticker! {c;

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I am not sure where you saw ramp vans following military guys on walk-arounds but it wasn't at any unit I worked at. I am sure it was something you imagined while on peyote or smoked salmon in Halifax

You walked from the breifing out to the aircraft..... That can be a long way on an AF ramp....

 

[Jim Smyth]

People need to lighten up on the uniform thing. Passengers don't care about the uniform. The only people that seem to get all caught up about the uniform are the ones like the guy I saw in the mall the other day in full uniform -- DORKS! ok back to t.v. that was my two cents for the night.

No $hit! Years ago I was at a local food store by where I live. There was a guy in his full uniform staning in line looking around to see who was looking at him. I told my wife to go over and ask him if he was a Flight Attendant!

I mean...............Come on! Get a life..................

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

You can have both. The long trench coat is much more functional than that ridiculous leather eyesore. The trench coat covers you down past the knees. The leather only covers from the waist up. When I'm preflighting a plane in Halifax in the middle of January, I'd prefer for my legs to be warm also.

Trench coat is a better option. But it doesn't seem to be in fashion anymore. It was in the '80s.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Did you bet your buddy how many replies you could get on this topic?? I am officially nominating you for "Flightinfo tool of the year." Too bad you couldnt have posted this a few days from now and you'd have a commanding lead in 2007...............

what I was thinking.

Here's To You, Mr. Flight Info Tool of The Year

 

[xjhawk]

why thank you!

Did you bet your buddy how many replies you could get on this topic?? I am officially nominating you for "Flightinfo tool of the year." Too bad you couldnt have posted this a few days from now and you'd have a commanding lead in 2007...............

Well, I just noticed some pretty pissed off people at the airports when the subject was brought up, seemed like a fun thing to do when i started this topic, oh, and by the way, i was also making a point about how some people have rediculous notions about our jobs.

 

[ATRCAPT]

Well...I do have to agree. The flexfit bottoms are pretty gay.

 

[Flopgut]

I hear the APAAD wants a new uniform standard for age 60+ captains...

Capes, scepters, or maybe even both!

 

[canyonblue]

Trench coat is a better option. But it doesn't seem to be in fashion anymore. It was in the '80s.

Same guys who love the trench coat, love their Members Only jackets even more.

 

[Huggyu2]

Judging from the folks that I sit next to on SWA flights,... and the way they dress,... I'm guessing that they really don't care if the pilot has a leather jacket. Let's face it: if the flight attendants have to ask the pax to put their shirts back on, it's probably a moot point.

 

[canyonblue]

Judging from the folks that I sit next to on SWA flights,...

Gotta call you out on this BS, I don't think a United pilot could afford Southwest fares.