JB 190 Raise

[FLYLOW22]

I wonder which Union the JB pilots will take up...

They could stay in house and call it the Blue U.

 

[kaki]

I wonder which Union the JB pilots will take up...

They could stay in house and call it the Blue U.

Hopefully no union for now...I think we are better off without one!

 

[J32driver]

Hopefully no union for now...I think we are better off without one!

You are either delusional, or you have figured out how to set the blue juice on fire and smoke it.

 

[kaki]

You are either delusional, or you have figured out how to set the blue juice on fire and smoke it.

I stop drinking juice of any color long time ago (including the ALPA juice). In my opinion a lot of JB pilots are over reacting to the latest road show news. I just don't think getting ALPA on the property now will help our cause, just my opinion!!!

 

[swa737-700]

Hopefully no union for now...I think we are better off without one!

Especially if you are even remotely thinking of ALPO...go review what they did to the former TWA guys/gals. ALPO will sell you out in a heartbeat.

 

[JBPA]

I stop drinking juice of any color long time ago (including the ALPA juice). In my opinion a lot of JB pilots are over reacting to the latest road show news. I just don't think getting ALPA on the property now will help our cause, just my opinion!!!

Kaki,

I'm glad you are happy here and are enthusiastic about the future under our current system. With all due respect, you've only been here for a short time and your assessment of the situation, both current and future, is VASTLY different from mine. Some of these posts could be construed as over reacting. IMO, a lot of it is not.

I still like coming to work and do all the stuff that we've been doing (OET, CI manipulation, crossing a belt, getting food) all along. Having said that, and after listening to D&D today, I don't think that our compensation and benefits will improve until we have REAL negotiations. Do the math. Regardles, we have a great bunch of guys to fly with (except for a few).

 

[NTS ALL 4]

But if only ALPA.....

Kaki,

I'm glad you are happy here and are enthusiastic about the future under our current system. With all due respect, you've only been here for a short time and your assessment of the situation, both current and future, is VASTLY different from mine. Some of these posts could be construed as over reacting. IMO, a lot of it is not.

I still like coming to work and do all the stuff that we've been doing (OET, CI manipulation, crossing a belt, getting food) all along. Having said that, and after listening to D&D today, I don't think that our compensation and benefits will improve until we have REAL negotiations. Do the math. Regardles, we have a great bunch of guys to fly with (except for a few).

Remember ALPA will only charge you 2% to fight a no-win situation on pay and healthcare. So now you'll be taking home less pay with a "real" union on the property. Another pay cut for the Blue Boys. I'd go in-house if I were you.

 

[ponder]

Can't you guys get to the point
a little more rapidly? This whole
darn thread took me forever
to read.

 

[av8instyle]

$48- 190 fo JetBlue yr 1

$29.97- 777 fo CAL yr 1 (Jan slots to newhires)

Not bad JetBlue. Not Bad.

$67 -190 FO Jetblue yr 12
$127 -777 FO CAL yr 12
Not bad Jetblue. Not Bad. (Insert sarcasm here)

 

[brainhurts]

$67 -190 FO Jetblue yr 12
$127 -777 FO CAL yr 12
Not bad Jetblue. Not Bad. (Insert sarcasm here)

Until the mergers and you are furloughed for the good of the company. Uh, all 800+ captains at JB have been on property 7 yrs or less. Makes 12 yr comparison seem weird eh?

 

[Lake Alice]

Ultimately the payraise for the 190 guys was a joke. The pilots know it and the company knows its. A good percentage of the blue juice drinkers are happy with it because D & D "did the right thing" but the majority of us know the truth. Its a temporary stop gap that will keep a few more 190 f/o's from leaving. All this raise did was expedite the union organization and show managements true side. Time will tell how a union will affect the company and the pilot group.

 

[Itsallsogood]

Opening offer from the AWA/AAA Joint Negotiating Committee for a 12 year CA and FO on the E190 are as follows:
CA125/hr
Fo 85/hr.
Again, these are the opening proposals in negotiations, however, since the E190's are to be on the East certificate, all pilots will be at the 12 year rate.
Current rates are:
CA 95/hr.
Fo 52/hr.

 

[LandGreen]

Until the mergers and you are furloughed for the good of the company. Uh, all 800+ captains at JB have been on property 7 yrs or less. Makes 12 yr comparison seem weird eh?

Trust me...WHEN not if the mergers happen...JB will be scrambling to find a dance partner too. When they do, JBers better have some sort of representation (legally) because I know about 12 airlines out there that would enjoy sheet canning all 800-1000 JB CA's (and FO's) you refer to!

 

[145 Lawndart]

Trust me...WHEN not if the mergers happen...JB will be scrambling to find a dance partner too. When they do, JBers better have some sort of representation (legally) because I know about 12 airlines out there that would enjoy sheet canning all 800-1000 JB CA's (and FO's) you refer to!

Have you ever heard of allegheny-mohawk LPP's. Nice try though.

 

[CaptBud330]

Don't have a clue

Hey Lawndart. you don't have a clue about the Allegheny/Mohawk merger. I was Mohawk DOH 1968, and got screwed big time and that was between 2 ALPO companies.

 

[regionaltard]

Hey Lawndart. you don't have a clue about the Allegheny/Mohawk merger. I was Mohawk DOH 1968, and got screwed big time and that was between 2 ALPO companies.

Agreed. JB pilots would have zero legal standing in the event of an acquisition or merger. They're just darn lucky that there's not an Airbus/EMB-190 operator out there with lots of pilots on the street that's looking to grow in a hurry........

 

[IB6 UB9]

Agreed. JB pilots would have zero legal standing in the event of an acquisition or merger. They're just darn lucky that there's not an Airbus/EMB-190 operator out there with lots of pilots on the street that's looking to grow in a hurry........

(yawn...)

 

[jbucpt]

Agreed. JB pilots would have zero legal standing in the event of an acquisition or merger. They're just darn lucky that there's not an Airbus/EMB-190 operator out there with lots of pilots on the street that's looking to grow in a hurry........

i was very impressed with the "legal standing" that the TWA ALPA pilots had......

 

[AA717driver]

Have you ever heard of allegheny-mohawk LPP's. Nice try though.

HOLY $H!T! Did I just read this right? I'm speechless... TC

 

[AA717driver]

Back somewhat on topic, can anyone give me a swag on the W2 of a senior CA at JB? I'm in a hair-splitting contest on another thread with some UAL guy...

Thanks in advance. TC