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YankandBank

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Ok, what is up with all of the miltary folks getting great avation jobs and then going on miltary leave? It's great that you protecting our country, but don't you think your milking the system? I've ran into so many miltary guy's that keep going back to active duty for 3 and 4 tours, just so when they come back there senroity number is great or they hold out for bigger iron. I've been seening this for some time and I just don't get it. Why are you doing this?

I'm all for the miltary, I tried and didn't get in. Very long stroy. I'm not dogging anyone or any branch, I'm just wondering is it just me? I've asked some of the miltary guy's and they say just so they can get a kick butt schedual. That is just for the wrong reasons.
 
My copilot came back on the B757 and couldn't stop saying gear down and locked to every tower. Thought he would finally notice that nobody else said that but him over ATC. I guess that comes from jumping into the middle of the seniority list right out of the military.
 
I cant speak for all, but for my brothers, going back was not exactly optional. When your reserve/gaurd status is activated you have to go.

I dont know many who would give up their great job and home time to go get shot at, just to avoid a seniority system.

If they are going to lay their life on the line for my freedom, (I was unable to do military as well) I dont mind them getting the good jobs.

THANKS VETS!!!!!
 
Not one of these threads again. :rolleyes:

I was never in the military, and I say more power to the military pilots. If they can get on at an airline and work the system, I see nothing wrong with that. It's not illegal or unethical, and no rules are being broken. So what's the problem??
 
Ok, what is up with all of the miltary folks getting great avation jobs and then going on miltary leave? It's great that you protecting our country, but don't you think your milking the system? I've ran into so many miltary guy's that keep going back to active duty for 3 and 4 tours, just so when they come back there senroity number is great or they hold out for bigger iron. I've been seening this for some time and I just don't get it. Why are you doing this?

I'm all for the miltary, I tried and didn't get in. Very long stroy. I'm not dogging anyone or any branch, I'm just wondering is it just me? I've asked some of the miltary guy's and they say just so they can get a kick butt schedual. That is just for the wrong reasons.

Better question to ask would be why would they want to be a part of a club that would accept you?:laugh:
 
Yank,

Those guys you are talking about are unbdoubtedly in the minority. Working the system like that, if that is what they are doing, is like milking sick leave for extra vacation and letting your brothers pick up the slack. Uncool. Most guys drilling, like me, have much fewer days off than other because we feel an obligation of continued service to our country. Living in a floating dumpster for 6 months or hanging out in a tent in the desert, believe it or not, isn't the good deal you might think. Neither is the lower pay.
 
Yank,

Those guys you are talking about are unbdoubtedly in the minority. Working the system like that, if that is what they are doing, is like milking sick leave for extra vacation and letting your brothers pick up the slack. Uncool. Most guys drilling, like me, have much fewer days off than other because we feel an obligation of continued service to our country. Living in a floating dumpster for 6 months or hanging out in a tent in the desert, believe it or not, isn't the good deal you might think. Neither is the lower pay.

Well put man. If someone is Military Leaving all the time because they might have to work on the weekends/holidays then they are what they are. Uncool. There is a differnce between someone who is activated for 3-4 months sitting in a tent and someone who puts himself on orders over thanksgiving/X-mas so he can be with his family and sit on his warm happy ass at home. A guy that does that, the latter, to me is no better than a scab. The unit is just as responsible for this kind of garbage as well. Honestly though, I know of nobody in my unit or have heard of someone doing this kind of crap. Anybody have any mil leave abuse stories?
 
Milking the system??? That is figuring a way to get extra vacation, abusing sick leave, skipping out on trips, etc.
Does your little mind think sitting in a tent and flying over hostile country while a bunch of ragheads are trying their best to kill you is milking the system?
Flying the worst schedule in the system is better than getting shot at!!
So what if they come back with their seniority number, they deserve it.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR SERVING!!!!!!!!!!
 
I got activated (involuntary) about 6 months after starting at a new company and was flying one of my last trips before being sent to Iraq. The captain said to me "You're timing this just right, aren't you, missing all the low seniority bidding." and I answered, "No matter how bad the civilian line is, it beats flying a red-eye into Baghdad watching for someone trying to shoot you down on final and then watching for incoming mortars while you're loading the plane."
 

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