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NYRANGERS

NYRANGERS

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The dangers of flying to third world countries with fourth world governments.






Federal Judge Says No and American Pilots Cannot Leave Brazil
[Written by José Wilson Miranda Monday, 13 November 2006
American pilots Joseph Lepore and Jan Paul Paladino cannot leave Brazil as they had asked in a petition to the Brazilian federal justice.
A federal judge from Sinop, a little city in the north of Cuiabá, capital of Mato Grosso state, dismissed the pilots request to get their passports back so that they can return to the United States.


http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/7519/53/
 
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I think these pilots will be released when some hire-up official gets the pay-off from someone on the pilot's behalf! They will call it "Legal Fee's" to expedite the pilots prompt release.
 
Did the Legacy turn off their transponder?

Why did 155 citizens die with two TCAS equipped aircraft?

The answer is stored on the Legacy's FDR showing exactly what the switch position of the TCAS/TRANSPONDER was at the time of the accident.

If it was intentionally switched off, 155 people died because of those pilots malicious disregard for the system. If it failed then it will be reported as such.

We shall see.
 
luckytohaveajob said:
The answer is stored on the Legacy's FDR showing exactly what the switch position of the TCAS/TRANSPONDER was at the time of the accident.
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Hmmm... I didn't think that that info might be on the FDR. But the FDR's on these new planes probably have ton's more data points than the old ones on the MD-80 I'm flying.
 
I don’t know about the FDR but ATC should be able to tell. I would like to wait for the final report (if there ever will be one) before I make to many guesses.
 
It is normal, for a judge to keep people around if there is an ongoing investigation. No reason to let someone go if there is the possibility of them disappearing after a possible criminal charge. This legal procedure is true in Brazil, USA, Austria, Canada, Mexico and the rest of the western hemisphere. By the way, Brazil is not third world...
 
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Hey Glass, that's not a Norton's in your Avatar is it?

I'm not a rider, but my Father-in-law, just bought one.
 
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Brazil is NOT a third world country....

Plus they have the FINEST women on the planet :}
 
Legacy was at odd altitude as instructed by ATC. They are trying to say the pilots should have climbed to 360 when they lost comm. I feel for those guys, not a nice place to be in jail
 
Do you think that two Brasilian pilots, who were involved in an accident in the US that killed 155 americans, would be allowed to return to Brasil?

Scott
 
Mulher brasileira são bela. Os pilotos devem permanecer em Brasil somente para o partido.
 
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Popeye0537 said:
Legacy was at odd altitude as instructed by ATC. They are trying to say the pilots should have climbed to 360 when they lost comm. I feel for those guys, not a nice place to be in jail
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Not what I learned getting my instrument rating!

Highest of the following for the current segment:
As cleared
As expected
MEA
 
AvroJockey said:
Not what I learned getting my instrument rating!

Highest of the following for the current segment:
As cleared
As expected
MEA
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I'm not sure that they actually lost comm. Often the controllers down there just stop answering the radio. Brasil is a third world country where aviation is concerned. The controllers are never held responsible for their unprofessional behavior and the graft and corruption are rampant. The pilots from Brasil would not be held in jail if they were in the US either. This prosecution of pilots is strictly a problem experienced in third world jungles.:puke:
 
frog_flyer said:
spent much time in texas?
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Spend much time in Brazil? I suggest mid February in Rio or a trip to Florianopolis in December/January (summer down there). If you are single, you will not want to come back. I guarantee it.

I also suggest this link. Do not click if you do not like hot chicks.

(Varig f/a's)

Try finding one of those at AA :P
 
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While I enjoyed looking at the link....we cannot have a link to playboy brazil on here. No posting of porn or links to porn. Although the girls on the link are dressed....barely, the adds on the page are too much.

sorry
 
BrazPilot said:
Spend much time in Brazil? I suggest mid February in Rio or a trip to Florianopolis in December/January (summer down there). If you are single, you will not want to come back. I guarantee it.

I also suggest this link. Do not click if you do not like hot chicks.

(Varig f/a's)

Try finding one of those at AA :P
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BrazPilot...

WHAT LINK?

My "Garota" is visiting from SAO right now!
 
For those of you uninformed about Brasil, here are a few facts:

1. Brasil (with an 's') is only spelled BraZil in America. It is actually spelled with an S in Brasil.

2. Brasil is the world's largest producer of agriculture.

3. 80% of all granite used in everything from construction to your bath floor comes from Brasil.

4. In Brasil, it is not a given to go to college. Everyone competes to got to a very limited college slots. If you have an overall GPA of 95%, that might not be enough. BTW, public universities are much better than private ones, and they are also free (provided you can get in!)

5. Brasil is actually larger than the continental US.

6. The Brasilian president (Lula), who was just re-elected, is a common man with just a high-school education. He is continually fighting for the common worker, vs. high-dollar special interest groups, as in America.

7. Health care is free in Brasil.

8. And, YES, they do have indoor baths, running water, and electricity.

So if the US pilots turned off their transponder, they should be tried on 155 counts of manslaughter. If not, then they should be let free, but only after all the facts have been brought to light.
BTW, it has been rumored that the ATC controller told Legacy to "Hold" current altitude. But it is also rumored that ATC called Legacy numerous times after that, and Legacy did not respond.
Let the facts come out before we condemn the pilots or Brasil.
 
Longhorn said:
While I enjoyed looking at the link....we cannot have a link to playboy brazil on here. No posting of porn or links to porn. Although the girls on the link are dressed....barely, the adds on the page are too much.

sorry
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Porn? OK...sorry, sorry. I'm American born but lived my teenage years in Brazil. Still living that culture and lifestyle. Girls running around in g-stings and tiny shorts is just something natural and normal. An @ss or a tit is no big deal (like that Janet Jackson scandal).

Anyway, for those that want to check the link out. Go to the usual playboy site, but add a .br to the end. Check out the Archive (arquivo) and select the month of September. You will see some furloughed Varig F/A's showing what is best in life.

Hope I don't get in trouble for this post :)
 
no trouble at all....I wish everyone would take a gander at the site....very very nice.

pilottodd....give me a ring when you can, you got the number?
 
big_al said:
Brasil is also full of extreme poverty and extremely high corruption and crime rates
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Yeah, that is true. It kind of depends on where you go. Take a wrong turn in L.A. and you're toast. But I'll tell you what. I've NEVER seen such happy, joyful and life-loving people anywhere else in the world. Not to mention the food! Great "rodizios" and the globe's best pizza is found in São Paulo (even an article in AA's American Way confirmed that fact). Brazilians really know how to have fun and how to enjoy that beautiful country, even with what little they might have. Their folks are just great. The girls...not even going to talk about that. I just know I'm going down for vacation in January, (Iguaçu Falls) and I'm really looking foward to it :)
 
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