Ameriflight EMB 120 bases?

[Hootie9750]

I would say that 50k is WELL on the LOW side of what our E-120 captains are making. I made nearly that much last year as a lowly Metro reserve.

Ive heard of urban legends of Brazilla captains making 80k....Im sure buff knows since he signs the time cards. Id be curious to know what the numbers are.

 

[frmrBUFFdrvr]

EXACTLY!!! Thats why I left Amflight to come to Skywest over 7 years ago. As I get older, I want my life to get easier not harder. As for pay, it kills me when the Amflight guys throw out the "first year pay at SkyWest sucks...why would you ever leave for that." I agree, the first year did suck but I've never looked back. I may not be getting rich making 90k a year, but I would never had made that at Amflight. Oh I do miss sharing a room with another pilot in a seedy motel room in PHX where you rent the sheets by the hour.

I'm sorry this whole thing devolved into a "who's better" argument. I don't know anyone who has ever said that AMF is a career location. At least not for most. And for the guys who leave early because they want what the regionals have to offer, more power to them. Unless they don't give a d*m* about integrety and break an agreement to do it.

For the guys who want to stay around long enough to get the quality turbine time to go elsewhere, it's a good work environment, good bennies, decent pay and great experience.

My biggest beef with Skywest was from a few years ago when they were hiring guys and telling them they had to start within days or no deal. Forcing someone to shaft their current employer is a heck of a way to do business. And to their credit, my understanding is that doesn't happen anymore.

 

[Flyin Tony]

how in the world do you sleep at night in the lovely Death Star pilot trailer recliners

Thats not the only place I sleep :beer:

 

[MMO 0.705]

Torpid,

I can appreciate that second year pay gets better and if you can afford the first year it might be a better option for some guys. But, 7 years ago it was 1999. Totally different industry. Back then, I dont think anyone thought ameriflight was good experience. Upgrades were like 1 year across the board and the majors were hiring. If it could only be those days again ....

 

[Torpid]

Torpid,

I can appreciate that second year pay gets better and if you can afford the first year it might be a better option for some guys. But, 7 years ago it was 1999. Totally different industry. Back then, I dont think anyone thought ameriflight was good experience. Upgrades were like 1 year across the board and the majors were hiring. If it could only be those days again ....

You're absolutely right!! It was different back than. I can only throw out there how my life is better since I left. Yeah, it was great experience and there's no doubt that that Amflight helped me get my current job, but here's what I don't miss:

(UPS truck show up to plane in Tijuana)
me: How's it going?
UPS driver: Great. How much load can you carry?
me: How much you got?
UPS driver: How much can you carry??
me: HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE??
UPS driver: HOW MUCH CAN YOU CARRY???
me: (finally caving in) I can carry 1000lbs
UPS driver: Well I have 990 lbs (he says with a smile).

I also don't miss sweating my a$$ off in IPL, BFL, FAT, BLH and any other hot spot over 100 degrees, loading up a PA32, PA31 or BE99. At my current job, I can get away with wearing the same shirt and pants for a 4 day trip without stinking (at least no one has complained yet )

I made some great friends at Amflight (many of whom I work with now.) Also, anytime I fly with an FO who previously worked for Amflight, it's almost like a sigh of relief. I know that there going to be sharp......and they never complain.


BTW, upgrades are getting back to that one year mark at SkyWest and to add to the mix, all the Captains I talk to at United say they will probably start hiring off the street next year (add that to CO, SWA, Fedex and others). It's going to look like old times (minus the allure of the high pay major airline job with lots of days off!!)

 

[DirtyBeech]

You know, I'm no big fan of big Brown either, but the above conversation no longer takes place. It doesn't at my base anyway. A couple of years ago they started using electronic scales at the hubs, and either they show up with a weight breakdown at the outstation or we play count the boxes and they can explain the delay code.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Why do they still looked pissed when we tell them we have to know they weight of the cargo? It is not like it is the first time we have told them we have to know the weights!

 

[EatSleepFly]

In SLC they play this little game where they apparently expect you to guess the weight when the cans come out. Kind of like the, "guess how many pieces of candy are in the jar and win it" thing.

If you're not standing by the scale when they weigh it (you know, because you were screwing around getting ATIS, clearance, fuel, etc.), you have to track down a supervisor to get the weight, and a scale to get bay weights.

They were asked to put the weights on the cans, and today the cans came out with sticky notes that had the N-number and destination, but of course, no weight. :uzi:

 

[DirtyBeech]

Then somebody out there needs to man up and tell them no weight, no load. This isn't a g*dd**n truck you're throwing boxes in. It would only take them half a second to write the weight on there, so they should do it.

KSU,
take what you know of the drivers in general, and understand that that expression never really leaves.

 

[time builder]

In SLC they play this little game where they apparently expect you to guess the weight when the cans come out. Kind of like the, "guess how many pieces of candy are in the jar and win it" thing.

If you're not standing by the scale when they weigh it (you know, because you were screwing around getting ATIS, clearance, fuel, etc.), you have to track down a supervisor to get the weight, and a scale to get bay weights.

They were asked to put the weights on the cans, and today the cans came out with sticky notes that had the N-number and destination, but of course, no weight. :uzi:

I love the whole UPS/Integrated relationship there. BTW, how's that new hangar on the North Ramp coming in SLC?

 

[EatSleepFly]

BTW, how's that new hangar on the North Ramp coming in SLC?

"Coming soon"




....just like colonies on Mars. :laugh:

 

[time builder]

Dang, the last time I was in SLC I saw a new building being built up there, I was hoping it was AMFs. What is it? DHL?

 

[EatSleepFly]

Yeah, it's DHL. They just moved in last week.

 

[Flyin Tony]

How are the runs in Texas? Im thinking about bidding LBB. But who knows whens its going to be open, if ever.

 

[frmrBUFFdrvr]

How are the runs in Texas? Im thinking about bidding LBB. But who knows whens its going to be open, if ever.

If you don't bid it, it won't matter WHEN it opens.

 

[RefugePilot]

In SLC they play this little game where they apparently expect you to guess the weight when the cans come out. Kind of like the, "guess how many pieces of candy are in the jar and win it" thing.
=:uzi:

My trick at PDX is to break out my own scale and a piece of paper, weigh each box, write down the weight and add up each bay. Its not that I am dragging my feet when doing it, but they still manage to find a scale by the second bay.

Not to change the subject but this thread, (I cant remember was this thread about why to bail to the regionals or how UPS has 4 letters in it) but Seattle is getting some BROs. I doubt they will be hiring off the street, as people up there have 2 years seniority and still fly PA31s. The F.O.s for them are around 2 year employees, from what I hear. The addition of BROs to BFI are making some room for movement down below though.

 

[embdrvr]

Not that regional pilots are idiots, but the job is so easy it doesn't help to build decision making.

DING DING DING.....Folks we have a winner for idiot FI poster of the year. He's obviously someone who has never been a captain at a regional.

 

[ksu_aviator]

I worked for a regional. I know exactly what the captains duties involve. I stand behind my statement and would put any 135 captain's decision making up against any 121 captains decision making any day.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

KSU aviatrix
I have done both and will have to agree that yours is one of the stupidest statements I have read in a while. And that is saying something.

It may be physically more demanding, and 135 has its challenges, but I would say I now have to make a lot more decisions that lead to a successful flight than I did in my years at Amflight.

 

[trybysky]

My trick at PDX is to break out my own scale and a piece of paper, weigh each box, write down the weight and add up each bay. Its not that I am dragging my feet when doing it, but they still manage to find a scale by the second bay.

Not to change the subject but this thread, (I cant remember was this thread about why to bail to the regionals or how UPS has 4 letters in it) but Seattle is getting some BROs. I doubt they will be hiring off the street, as people up there have 2 years seniority and still fly PA31s. The F.O.s for them are around 2 year employees, from what I hear. The addition of BROs to BFI are making some room for movement down below though.

This statement somewhat true. We are supposed to be getting at least one bro, but I'll believe it 100% when it lands here. Probably wont be until after peak.