BTW: These are the Terms Being Imposed on XJ Pilots

[OttoPilot]

Apparently they don't have the balls to impose them... They announced last night that negotiations were continuing and they were NOT imposing terms at this time.

 

[copcar1988]

So which do you think would be worse: management imposing or labor giving in and reaching an agreement?

 

[climb2slow]

Sadly, it still looks better than Mesa.

 

[Terry Hunter]

Negotiations Update –
Talks continued during the evening and are planned throughout the day today. As stated last night, as a result of the negotiations, management has decided to delay the imposition of new contract terms. As of now, our current contract remains in full force and effect.
Next status report this afternoon.
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So, let me figure this out - will many XJers feel "better" about a consensual agreement knowing the bitter alternative? Seems like XJ mgmt has you by the short hairs. By dangling the proverbial "stick", are you conceeding to a concessionary agreement and subcumbing to a little "stockholm syndrome"?

 

[mynameisjim]

I think I would have a lot of fun "flying the book".

What are all the things that are sometimes not done to the book? What could be done differently?

Getting extra approaches
bringing all faults to the attention to maintenance control
(and where they occur, not at a hub all the time)
taxiing at walking speed
configure as early and safely as necessary


What else?

 

[xjlifer]

1.Do not use cell phone to call dickscratch
2.Do not call ops to inform them there is no jet bridge driver
3.Do not call ops to ask for marshaller's
4. When plane is late wait for them to come find you in the crew room. DO not go look to see if it is at gate.

And lots more

 

[oiltycoon]

So, let me figure this out - will many XJers feel "better" about a consensual agreement knowing the bitter alternative? Seems like XJ mgmt has you by the short hairs. By dangling the proverbial "stick", are you conceeding to a concessionary agreement and subcumbing to a little "stockholm syndrome"?

Sadly I'd say most are or will. The atmosphere in the flightdeck is poor and people have this "lets just get this over" attitude. We're either taking a 17.5% cut or no better than 14-15% (at least that is what our negotiating team is reporting, a difference around 2% at the table). So either way it's going to be sh!t. But I suppose we get to vote on a TA. Time for another "CA vs. FO" or "Lifers vs. FOs that will be working at Home depot" vote

 

[ILOVEBEER]

I can't stand this part. It is just plain wrong. Even the DOL has set a minimum of 3 hrs if you get called into work. Thanks to having a Union the DOL rules don't count!

Having a union has nothing to do with it. The transportation industry has many labor law exemptions and I'm sure this is one of them. That's why you don't get mandated breaks like everyone else.

 

[Mr Wu]

Having a union has nothing to do with it. The transportation industry has many labor law exemptions and I'm sure this is one of them. That's why you don't get mandated breaks like everyone else.

Yes. The Railway Labor Act has been fukcing us for years.

 

[filejw]

Mr Wu you are so right .RLA was set up in the late 1890's to protect small towns from being left with no service if there was a RR strike. At the time no competion existed in the form of say trucks. The RLA has to go big time and we need to work on that as much as anything.