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pdub20s

pdub20s

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What are the chances of getting hired into a RJ at Mesa? from my understaning most new hires are getting into the 1900
 
pdub20s said:
What are the chances of getting hired into a RJ at Mesa? from my understaning most new hires are getting into the 1900
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About the same as your chances of getting rode hard and put away wet at Mesa, which is to say, excellent.
 
Since FOs are seat locked unitl they upgrade your chances are probably pretty good considering Mesa's ratio of jets to turbo props.
 
DashCojones said:
Why the hard-on for an RJ?
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What, are you kidding? Fly a prop? You got to be kidding. This guy probably has 800 hours, and wouldnt want his friends to see him fly a prop.

Do you really think he wants to fly 8 legs a day with no autopilot, in sh*tty weather, to learn what airline pilots before him had to go thru. No he knows everything and is wanting to fly that Virgin A320 for $50 an hour.


Its the "now" generation.
 
pdub20s said:
What are the chances of getting hired into a RJ at Mesa? from my understaning most new hires are getting into the 1900
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On average, your chances are good for the RJ, but it depends on what they need at that moment. One thing about the 1900 is that if you get that airplane they will tell you when you get the job offer since the training is in ICT.

If you are told to report to PHX, it will be CRJ, ERJ, or D-8, but you may not find out which until the first week of class.

Umm, BTW why would you contemplate mesa anyway? It really doesn't get much worse than that as far as 121 employers...
 
He must've seen the Mesa ALPA video and realized that Mesa pilots DO have more fun. Have fun, and remember to submit your $50 application fee. Every fee received goes towards helping J.O. buy another motorcycle.
 
Im asking cuz a lot of post about mesa hiring mostly talk about getting hired into the 1900. Im just curious as to what chances would anybody have about getting into the RJ.in response to that other guys post I have no problem flying a prop or anything like that...hey, turbine time is turbine time right? And im not interested in mesa really..i have heard a lot the horror stories
 
If I were you I would be hoping for the 1900 or Dash 8. You'll upgrade a hell of a lot quicker. I mean, if your job is going to be living hell...it might as well be from the left seat.
 
SkyBoy1981 said:
If I were you I would be hoping for the 1900 or Dash 8. You'll upgrade a hell of a lot quicker. I mean, if your job is going to be living hell...it might as well be from the left seat.
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BWHAHAHA thats funny... what is the upgrade time in those 2?
 
I don't work for Mesa, but my understanding is that both of those are pretty quick. They were hiring street captains for the Dash a few months ago.
 
pdub20s said:
What are the chances of getting hired into a RJ at Mesa? from my understaning most new hires are getting into the 1900
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Lots of newhires coming though the pipeline for the CRJ right now. (side note: IAD and ORD captains . .. . LOOK OUT!!!)

It's a crap shoot, really.

Mesa is really like a box of chocolates, . .. yadda, yadda, (but you're gonna be alergic to that chocolate after a couple of weeks of ready reserve or camping trips).
 
Just don't forget the hair gel, IPod and personality of an annoying 16 year old girl.
 
Wow,mesa really sounds like hell? how can the pilots allow themselves to be treated that way?
 
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your chances are good that you will be put in the rj jumble jet. however your lack of experince may place you jepardy of busting your checkride. study hard my friend!!
i was in a similar situation and now i am in training for jet captain. we have quick upgrades here. a fasttrack airline is what you want!

mav
 
rickair7777 said:
Yes, it is. Equipment lock for life saves money on training events.

You can only upgrade into your airplane, and T-prop guys have the option of waiting and upgrading into the jet. Jet FO's are stuck.
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Just curious, does that also mean that if you are a capt on the 145 then you are never able to get into the CRJ? (for the higher rates on the -700 and -900) Not that I would EVER leave to go to mesa... just curious.
 
pdub20s said:
What are the chances of getting hired into a RJ at Mesa? from my understaning most new hires are getting into the 1900
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You have no control over what aircraft you will get. You will list your preferences, but in the end what you want doesn't really matter (pretty much goes for every day life at Mesa). I wanted the Dash or the 1900 and got the CRJ, go figure. It changes from week to week.

Just to give you an insight into Mesa's brilliant staffing planning: I had a new hire in the jumpseat a couple of days ago who went all the way through ERJ ground school and on the last day of class was told they were being switched to the CRJ, so they started all over.

The only thing for sure, the aircraft you get will have two engines and a T-tail. Good luck.
 
n757st said:
Just curious, does that also mean that if you are a capt on the 145 then you are never able to get into the CRJ? (for the higher rates on the -700 and -900) Not that I would EVER leave to go to mesa... just curious.
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turbo prop FO's can upgrade to any airplane (1900, dash, 145, and crj). Turbo prop CA's can upgrade to either jet CA. Jet FO's either crj or 145 can upgrade to either Jet CA position. and 145 CA's can upgrade to the CRJ.
 
Prop FO's can upgrade in their respective aircraft or any jet unless a situation arises and the company waives that requirement based on their needs.

I suffered at Mesa but I also gained a trememdous amount of experience. You'll always be an underdog and beaten up on this forum but Mesa guys are used to that treatment. We get it from our flying brethren as well as management. Fine by me. I was there 9 3/4 years and flew as captain for 8 1/4 years. 1900D FO/1900D CA/CRJ 2/7/9 CA. I logged over 4000 turbine PIC and that certainly helped me get to where I am today.

With that said, the pilots at Mesa are pretty beaten up right now. They secured scope protections at the cost of quality of life. However, they are now one unified list of pilots and will give one unified kick in the ass to management when the CBA comes up for renewal. I'd start putting money away in your "strike fund" right now. ;)
 
bustinmins said:
Prop FO's can upgrade in their respective aircraft or any jet unless a situation arises and the company waives that requirement based on their needs.

I suffered at Mesa but I also gained a trememdous amount of experience. You'll always be an underdog and beaten up on this forum but Mesa guys are used to that treatment. We get it from our flying brethren as well as management. Fine by me. I was there 9 3/4 years and flew as captain for 8 1/4 years. 1900D FO/1900D CA/CRJ 2/7/9 CA. I logged over 4000 turbine PIC and that certainly helped me get to where I am today.

With that said, the pilots at Mesa are pretty beaten up right now. They secured scope protections at the cost of quality of life. However, they are now one unified list of pilots and will give one unified kick in the ass to management when the CBA comes up for renewal. I'd start putting money away in your "strike fund" right now. ;)
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Prop FO's upgrade in their own equipment or to any jet. Any jet FO may upgrade to any jet CA but not a prop unless it is waived by the company based on their needs. Another way to bypass that is to be one of the lucky ones that is displaced from a jet base that has props based there as well. Then you can cross the line if you can hold the seat if your equipment is gone.
 
CX880 said:
I hear high time hires get the t-prop, as it should be.
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I would agree with you. If a Mesa Pilot Development pilot arrives to a jet they are missing a huge amount of learning that comes from the prop side of the house.

You should fly steam before you fly glass....

My .02
 
If you gave any of the Mesa Pilot Development guys a turbo prop they probably wouldn't know what to do because they have no FMS or autopilot. They also have 40 hours in that pile of $hit CRJ FTD and they all think their experts. I had one tell me that he had the abitliy to be a captain at 250 hours.
 
SpartyOn said:
If you gave any of the Mesa Pilot Development guys a turbo prop they probably wouldn't know what to do because they have no FMS or autopilot. They also have 40 hours in that pile of $hit CRJ FTD and they all think their experts. I had one tell me that he had the abitliy to be a captain at 250 hours.
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I would have kicked his face in after hearing that!
 

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